Posted on Oct 23, 2016
Does anyone have any advice on how to store or hang M50 Masks?
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Finally got the "new" M50 masks. (Finally trickling down to more Reserve units now, I guess). Anyway these carriers are not equipped with a handy D-Ring, so there is not a good place to attach a hanging clip or hook.
Have seen these stored on shelves, but my RC safety manager insists that these need to be stored by hanging (like older ones).
I would like to hear what others have done.
Have seen these stored on shelves, but my RC safety manager insists that these need to be stored by hanging (like older ones).
I would like to hear what others have done.
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CBRN NCO
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Posted 9 y ago
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I tied 550 cord to a little strap on the bag. Each piece of cord was about 12 inches long. Tied it off in a square knot. Hung just like the old ones. Took some time to do, but wasn't hard to do.
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You win @Sgt Phil Hammond SGT (Join to see)! I think that will be cheaper then buying 120 S-hooks
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If they want it hanged, then use the big hooks and hang it like "purses", there's a part in the strap that you can hang but you gotta use the big hooks. I do have mine on a shelf sitting on an upright position in the carrying case.
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SGM (R) Antonio Brown , the decision was already made by my CBRN officers to Turn in the M40s and initiate assignment and training of the M50s. What is the recommendation from FLW about how to store the Mask/ Carrier combo.
Our METL and our mission does not support, in my opinion, issuing the masks to the soldiers. We had discussed it and came up with several reasons why it would be better for the masks to remain in the unit's storage area and just be assigned and fit-tested to individuals, As a Reserve unit, CBRN training, unfortunately tends to only occur 1-2 times a year.
I am trying to change that, but that is a separate issue and another discussion. I had an interesting discussion with previous Commandant BG Gervais about Reserve training issues during one of the Afternoon Socials when I was there for phase I of SLC. I am returning to finish SLC in January-March. I look forward to perhaps meeting you in person.
Our METL and our mission does not support, in my opinion, issuing the masks to the soldiers. We had discussed it and came up with several reasons why it would be better for the masks to remain in the unit's storage area and just be assigned and fit-tested to individuals, As a Reserve unit, CBRN training, unfortunately tends to only occur 1-2 times a year.
I am trying to change that, but that is a separate issue and another discussion. I had an interesting discussion with previous Commandant BG Gervais about Reserve training issues during one of the Afternoon Socials when I was there for phase I of SLC. I am returning to finish SLC in January-March. I look forward to perhaps meeting you in person.
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SGM (R) Antonio Brown
1SG (Join to see) - I will still be here. I move from classroom to classroom checking on training. Although CBRN ALC and ALC do not belong to the CBRN School, the writers for the courses work with me and I checking on the flow of the lessons.
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SGT Ej P.
1SG (Join to see) - BTW just a side note you gotta be careful with the filters, here on the active duty side we cannot get extras like how you do with the canisters for the M40 unless it's a 1 for 1 exchange say if it's "contaminated" or the little marker turns blue but on a positive note, it still functions with just one filter...
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SGM (R) Antonio Brown
1SG (Join to see) - My shop has not put out any specific guidance for storage of the protective masks once they have been removed from the shipping container. This is due to the fact that no two CBRN rooms are the same. I have made recommendations based on the size of the CBRN rooms. With your unit not conducting a lot of CBRN training I would recommend keeping all masks stored at the unit. Now, if your unit had storage containers/lockers for each Soldier that would be reason to sign out the masks to each individual so that it can be packed with that individuals deployment/field gear.
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Just grab some Carabiner rings and be done with it. It’ll be easier to hang and take off quickly if need be.
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It will all be uniform and look professional. After all, the military is a very professional job so you want to take pride in everything you do.
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Where do you attach the rings to the carrier. Not to mention justifying the nearly $200 purchase cost
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Have the M50 Mask hanging in the wall the same way as the M40A1/M42A2. Adjust the strap as needed to keep an organized appears. The M50 Mask has an individual serial number and lot number. that is located on the right side of the mask once you take off the M67 Filters. If you need additional CBRN assistance or other related products contact me at [login to see]
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Thanks. We know about the serial numbers, and in fact, have a photographic record of those. The biggest issue was how to store these particular masks in their carriers. I am currently exploring either the small loop for adjustment on the strap or creating loops with 550 cord. The minor problem I have with using the straps is the S-hooks that I had for the M40s are too small to handle the M50s. But that is easily solved with a trip to the hardware store
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Sp4 Byron Skinner…SEcond time on responding to this. Last one disappeared. I would think that storing standing up on a shelf on the filters would be the best. If you store laying down the weight on the bottom layer of mask could distort the rubber on the bottom mask and effect making the seal. Hit from way back. That caring pouch would take a hell of a magazine caring pouch. Toss the mask, you will never use it but use the pouch to carry loaded magazines. From experience I know dumping the empty with the right hand and grabbing with left out of the pouch and inserting a fresh magazine saves several second for either a pouch or pockets on a vest. Second will save your life…OK now a question for all you young guys. I see a kid (teenager) walking around with a virtual Reality headset I guess playing a game.Does this technology and augmented reality have military applications. I don't see why algorithms (yes we had them back in the slide rule days) be put onto sensors that would recognize faces, weapons, horizontal lines, vehicles in foliage (FLIR) and could be worn by a point man/woman or a patrol leader. It seem to me these headsets could have unlimited military applications…If any of you have ideas pass it on up the chain of command. The use of the pouch really does work, we used pouches for the M 17A1 Protective mask which as as valuable as a mess kit to carry loaded magazines, I'm surprised the Army never adapted it, but again how many officers have bee caught dismounted in an ambush or engaged it a fire fight. This applications save I would estimate 3-5 seconds in reloading.
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They have a lot of advantages over the 40's. Better field of vision, improved technology that allows coupling with various commo systems..such as what air traffic controllers might need. The fit is more comfortable and the slimmer profile should make using weapons easier (have not tried that yet).
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D-ring on the head straps. Boom! Problem solved. Mine is currently at the bottom of my ruck waiting for me to leave here soon.
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A couple things. The head straps are carefully fitted to the soldier. I'm not sure how D rings would not interfere with that.
How would that fix the carrier problem. Or are you suggesting that the masks be stored outside the carrier?
How would that fix the carrier problem. Or are you suggesting that the masks be stored outside the carrier?
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