Posted on Aug 30, 2016
Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen
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I ask because yesterday I was called for jury duty. I was selected to a group of 28 potential jurors who went to a courtroom to be questioned by the judge and lawyers. When questioning revealed that I had served in the military I could see red pens come out on both sides to mark their spreadsheets. Ultimately I wasn't selected, but sure seemed vet status did me in early on in questioning.
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TSgt John Hotelling
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We shall see I would hope I could do jury duty but I don’t think I can physically can’t sit long or stand long supposed to report for jury duty in feb. waiting for a notarized letter from va doc to see if I can be excused. We shall see
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Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen
Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen
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Well, I've reached the age where I am no longer subject to being called, so one less thing to worry about. Good luck with the letter, fingers crossed for you.
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CPO Dave Royce
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why Haven’t I been verified asa Vet
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CPO Dave Royce
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You know that could be true I’ve lived in Jacksonville , for 25 years , and have never been called , my buddy moved here 2 years later call for jury duty , wasn’t selected either
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1LT Executive Officer
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It's not that being a veteran specifically disqualifies you, it's that being a veteran makes you likely to have certain beliefs that neither defense nor prosecuting attorneys seek for jurors. The ideal juror is someone that both sides feel can be swayed to their side. Typically people with a set of absolute values aren't wanted by either the defense, the prosecution, or both, depending on what that set of values is. Veterans typically have an absolute set of values. It's not to say that they're absolutely committed to one particular set of values, but just that whatever that set of values happens to be: their commitment to them is absolute. The military doesn't have a tendency of producing people with relative and empathetic viewpoints, which is what they're looking for during jury selection.
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Capt Joe Sylvester
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TSgt Denise Moody - Depends on the reason for the disagreement. What if the law is contrary to the Constitution? I don't recall swearing to support and defend the laws or regulations.

The only "jury" I ever actually served on, despite being called many times over the years, was when I was an AF 1LT. It wasn't actually a court martial, but it was run like one, and the panel acted the way the panel in a court martial would act. Guilt was obvious, but our main task was to recommend punishment to the Convening Authority. We decided there were mitigating circumstancing, and that they guy should be given a second chance, rather than a discharge. He finished his enlistment, and got out with a honorable discharge.
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TSgt Denise Moody
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Capt Joe Sylvester - If the law is on the books, as a juror, you are charged to follow that law. It's through the appeal process that laws that are against the Constitution are remedied. That remedy gets the law off the books. Now your can be an activist juror/jury and go against the unjust law, but that doesn't get the law off the books. It's still there to cause another person harm.

Now the board you seem to be referring to isn't the same as a trial, and mitigating circumstances can be taken into account. With a trial the mitigating circumstances should have been taken into account with the charges filed...the difference between manslaughter and murder. Juries can take those circumstances into account if they are determining punishment, if that's part of their duty.
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Capt Joe Sylvester
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TSgt Denise Moody - It can help to convince Congress, or a state legislature, to take an Unconstitutional (different than unjust) off the books. Even a successful appeal may only overturn the law in a single district, unless the prosecution appeals the appeals court's ruling. Even then, it's still on the books, and a prosecutor may attempt to enforce it because "this case is different" than the one the Courts ruled on. A good example of the affect, although involving a law changed by the legislature involves Texas' law on carrying a firearm in a vehicle. It was always a defense to prosecution that the violator was "traveling". But traveling was not defined in the law, over the years it got interpreted more and more strictly, from crossing a county line, to two county lines to an overnight stay. (I recall one case where the man and his son were traveling from Dallas to Galveston, which fit all the criteria, and he was still arrested and prosecuted). The legislature attempted to fix that by defining traveling, as it was originally understood, being in a vehicle going somewhere. And still DA's in Houston, Austin and Dallas were charging people. Finally, having had enough of that, the legislature changed the law so that if you were traveling, it was no longer a crime to have a handgun in the vehicle.

The appeals judges and even the Supreme Court are not the only arbitrators of Constitutionality.
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TSgt Denise Moody
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Capt Joe Sylvester - It takes both the court system and the legislative system to fix laws. One way is through the appeals process to get the law declared Unconsitutional. The other method can include an activist jury, judge, or ground roots campaign to get the state legislature to act. Either method can be long.

I don't agree with the drug laws. A lot of them need to be tossed, others modified. In no way should the user be jailed. That's probably why I didn't get seated on two trials. But the one I did get on that opinion didn't bother the prosecutor and the defense was more interested in the veterans/retirees opinions on officers. Did we think that officers always told the truth, never broke the rules. My answer to that question was hell no, they are just as likely to break the rules as enlisted. He loved that answer and I was seated. ;)
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MSgt Frances Hayden
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Not in an area that is majority veterans, retirees and active duty or family thereof.
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PO1 Thomas Malik
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Veteran status will not keep you from being selected as a juror. There were three veterans on the last jury I was selected for. Caring 600 + grams of powder cocaine and a 45 caliber pistol came out to 35 years at hard labor.
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LCDR Wayne Zieschang
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I have been called for jury duty more times than I can remember.

While on active duty, I would receive a summons about every 18 to 24 months. As Texas used Voter Registration rolls to pull summons, mine would always go to my Home of Record address. My father would put an "X" in the box "On Active Duty" and mail it back in.

After getting off Active Duty, but was still in the Reserves, the same thing would happen. As I went back to school, I could opt for the "Full-time College Student" exemption. That worked for 3 summons.

Subsequently, Texas changed to using Driver's License record to enlarge the Juror Pool. After that, I was called about every 3 years. Every time, the juries would get filled before they got around to me.

About 10 years ago, I moved to Bell County (Ft Hood) where if Veterans were excluded, the county couldn't get enough people for a car pool much less a set of juries. I was called for jury duty less that 2 months after moving, was selected for the jury, and picked as foreman by the other jurors because I said, "Well, the first thing we have to do is pick a foreman." The crime was child molestation by a soldier, we found him guilty and gave him the maximum time and fines allowed by law.

Haven't even received another notice since.
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Sgt Kelli Mays
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Edited 9 y ago
Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen NO...I've received 4 Jury Duty summons since getting out....they pick the jury purely on what the CASE pertains to...
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Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen
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Seems to be pretty much the case. Lawyers know what types they do/do not want based on details of the case.
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SSgt Roy Jones
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No I just had jury duty this past week (traffic court), along with some Army Capt. All these people wanted a trial to me was a waste of time. I will say that out of the 12 I was examined in 11 cases, however I was only selected for one. I never mentioned I was a veteran because, the only question that was asked that related was are you a retired veteran?
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SSgt Kathy Morgan EA
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Right there with you, sir! The try being a vet and a retired cop! I usually get dismissed before the first question.
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