Does every MOS/Rate need the same level of fitness? What about an MOS/Rate specific PT test or events?

I like to see Leaders thinking and coming up with new and possibly innovating ideas, but I like to have one standard. Far as different things, it is possible to have the SMs in the same MOS compete with each on a BN level for bragging rights, a four-day pass, and a AAM or an ARCOM.

One Standard, whether you like this or not, personally I could care less if you like it or not. Every MOS is just an extra skill identifier, Every soldier in the Army, is initially trained as one thing, An Infantryman. So, along side the Marines, we are, and will be Infantry first, and then whatever MOS afterwards. Therefore, All we need is one standard, and one standard only. One standard covers ALL MOS's

You sign up to be a soldier, you be a soldier and live up to the standards. If you are unable to perform, maybe you made a bad choice and should have gone into retail where fitness for duty doesn't matter.

The PT test has as much to do with personal and unit discipline as it has to do with fitness. If your and or your unit is not upholding at least the minimum standards, you are failing your job. You signed on that line, you should have known it wasn't going to be a cake walk. If you can't even push yourself to meet the minimum standards, how are you going to be able to push yourself to perform at the top of your abilities for your job?

I like the idea of a MOS specific PT test but I think problems will pop with the set up of those PT tests. For example if a BN is mostly made up of 11Bs then the unit will have no problem getting a PT test set up for them. But most units only have 1-2 74Ds and if their PT test is different then setting it up will be a pain. They also won't be able to take a PT test the same day as any other MOSs. I think this would cause problems for any 1SG who is trying to set up PT test dates.

Before reading any other replies, I think the Infantry, SF, Rangers, Delta and Units that directly work with infantry should be held to a higher standard, perhaps PT closer to the 85% percentile...when the rest of the Army can get away with 60%...which is a joke.

Seems like an "You can add to, but can't take away" situation. Keeping the same standard in all MOS's I think is needed. In more strenuous jobs, maybe add a ruck march, pull-ups, swim, etc...
Beacause what would come next? Different grooming standards in garrison? Conduct based on MOS?
Doesn't seem like a good idea especially with people having multiple MOS's or people that intend to switch MOS's and be competetive in promotions and advancement.
Just seems like lowering the bar.

The standards should be the same for everyone regardless of MOS, rank, active, guard, or reserve. If you give everyone different standards then the Military will look and act like a soup sandwich.

I would say that there has to be a basic APFT standard that every member has to pass; it is OK for any specific MOS or specialty to have higher standards than the basic APFT.

For the APFT no but for unit Pt yes. As a medic we did litter carries, and different manual carries for pt all the time. Fireman carry races were always fun.

With everyone giving valid points, I would have to agree in the long haul that it would be beneficial to the Army as a whole to have different standards for PT. Now the charts would change for promotion points but that isn't rocket science. Honestly if we were to keep it the same standard all around, I'd raise it. A 180 on PT test is a joke if you're between the ages of 18-35. It doesn't matter if you sign up to be a clerk or a grunt. If shit hits the fan and the bastards are in the wire, you need to be physically and mentally tough. If you can't keep up with the fight, then you're a problem and in big one. You're better off passing your ammo off to someone who can and will keep up. The cold hard truth is there are many soldiers I saw or worked with in overseas bases and if something bad happened, I would not want them to watch my back because I could not trust their physical ability to help me if needed.
Now with that being said, having separate standards per MOS can cause issues such as that, BUT raising the minimum standards for combat oriented or attachment MOS's from 180 to say 240 (example) ONLY benefits the unit as a whole. Higher standards met allows a more effective fighting force, boosts unit pride, success mentality, etc, etc. Some jobs in the military would never deploy or even see a tracer fired from the enemy. It is kind of a buzz kill to see certain needed people to be bounced due to not making a set of push ups but their job is mission essential but never takes you in the field.
Raising the standards also breeds a "old school" class of soldiers. Having pride in serving your country is great, but to be apart of a particular job or unit, there is more pride and success that way. Some think something like a PT standard is just a small change, but it's a piece of creating a greater and more effective military unit. It's a small piece, but a necessary piece.
Lets keep it simple: Should a grunt who barely passes the PT be in the field when his lack of physical abilities have a higher risk of being a hinder on his unit? No, that should not be the case. As a team you can try to improve those individuals, but even with help they can still lose that care. And passing the minimum still keeps them in the job when instead you can find someone else who would meet the higher standards and be more effective in the long run.