Posted on Aug 25, 2021
Does LDAC count as time in service for SMP cadets?
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If you are enlisted taking ROTC as a non scholarship Cadet while enrolled in the SMP program, all of your ROTC time counts as TIS for pay and retirement points. So if you enlisted in the guard to attend school, finished your MOS school and joined ROTC in your Sophomore or Junior year, you should max out the pay scale for O-1 when you commission. That is, unless they are O-1E, which requires over 4 years Active Service or 1460 Points for Reservist and National Guard. Then you are on a separate, but higher pay scale.
Funny you should ask that question. Way back in 1978 or 79 when I was an ROTC cadet at BYU I heard about this new thing called the Simultaneous Membership Program (SMP). I ran right over to the 19th Special Forces HQ and signed up. I was that much closer to my dream of being an SF professional soldier. Wu-ho, more money, more experience, and time with an A team, can't beat that. I just wanted to learn what I could from the big boys. We had Vietnam veterans with real combat and real jungle time on our teams back then. I didn't care that I was told that it would not count towards retirement or pay.
Well, sometimes big government agencies have a way of changing for the good and 22 years after commissioning I ended up retiring with 24 years of total service. So, yeah it counts, unless they've changed it again.
Well, sometimes big government agencies have a way of changing for the good and 22 years after commissioning I ended up retiring with 24 years of total service. So, yeah it counts, unless they've changed it again.
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CPT Lawrence Cable
MAJ Kris Buchanan - Sir, it means that this is an old HRC notice. This is the passage you want to look at "If you fall in this category, you may be eligible for back pay beginning on 23 September 1996; the date the new law became effective.". So your PEBD should have reverted to when you joined the Reserve/National Guard for TIS, and you should get credit for all drills, plus advance camp if you submit a travel voucher (since you aren't on Orders to attend). Does the Army owe you a bunch of Money?
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CPT Lawrence Cable - I was an SMP cadet, never went to Basic or AIT.
CPT Lawrence Cable
CPT (Join to see) - I haven't dealt with that side of things, but I believe that you still signed enlistment papers into the Army Reserve or National Guard. I don't see any exceptions to the rules above, so your TIS should have started when you signed your contract. The link above has the directions and documentation need to claim that, but it would seem you might have a couple of years TIS due and retirement points, which won't mean anything until you actually retire. They should back pay you for the TIS difference.
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