Posted on Jul 17, 2025
Does my soldier have to lose more than 3-8 lbs after a failure?
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Hello everyone. I am a relatively new SGT. I have a soldier who recently failed his taping for ABCP. If he gained weight this month, does he have to lose the 3-8 lbs from his weight previous to failing or his current weight? Thank you all so much for your time and experience!
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It is done from the last ABCP assessment (i.e., weigh-in). In other words, from the last month's weigh-in.
While a barracks lawyer might suggest that a Soldier enrolled in the ABCP could 'seesaw' each month, once enrolled, the Soldier is considered to be failing the program if they:
• Don't lose that 3-8 pounds or 1% body fat for two consecutive months.
• Are in the program for six months and have not made satisfactory progress for three or more months.
So, they have six months to make progress and three strikes before they are out.
While a barracks lawyer might suggest that a Soldier enrolled in the ABCP could 'seesaw' each month, once enrolled, the Soldier is considered to be failing the program if they:
• Don't lose that 3-8 pounds or 1% body fat for two consecutive months.
• Are in the program for six months and have not made satisfactory progress for three or more months.
So, they have six months to make progress and three strikes before they are out.
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What Col Cudworth said.
The weird thing with the new taping chart is the more weight a Soldier loses the more that counts against them as far as body fat reckoning is concerned; so while losing 3-8 pounds per month can be considered "progress" the same Soldier needs to be in compliance via taping, too; even if said Soldier gets within table weight.
The weird thing with the new taping chart is the more weight a Soldier loses the more that counts against them as far as body fat reckoning is concerned; so while losing 3-8 pounds per month can be considered "progress" the same Soldier needs to be in compliance via taping, too; even if said Soldier gets within table weight.
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SSG Gregg Mourizen
What in the idiocracy logic are you saying?
Meeting the goal is still failing? I take it they are still using the inaccurate tape test.
Meeting the goal is still failing? I take it they are still using the inaccurate tape test.
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SGT Aaron Atwood
SSG Gregg Mourizen yes they're still using it. They eliminated the neck measurement which made a number of folks visibly upset. I never cared because my neck rarely ever played in my favor.
What the dumbacity is going on is having a particular waist measurement to go with your weight. Being at 36" while 181 lbs counts worse for you than it does at 210.
What the dumbacity is going on is having a particular waist measurement to go with your weight. Being at 36" while 181 lbs counts worse for you than it does at 210.
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SSG Gregg Mourizen
SGT Aaron Atwood -
Really? Wow!!!
They figured out how to make the least accurate way to measure bodyfat, and made it worse?
The whole time I was in the Army, I begged them to pull out the calipers. I even demanded the water dunk test. I never made weight once. I missed it by one pound once. I always got taped, even at 6% and I've seen a 5% difference by the same person.
Really? Wow!!!
They figured out how to make the least accurate way to measure bodyfat, and made it worse?
The whole time I was in the Army, I begged them to pull out the calipers. I even demanded the water dunk test. I never made weight once. I missed it by one pound once. I always got taped, even at 6% and I've seen a 5% difference by the same person.
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The only thing I can add to what the good Colonel already said, is that be sure that your Soldier is losing weight AND inches while on the program. The new table is pretty strict on that.
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