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I was a twice non-select for promotion to major. I declined SELCON, so I was separated. Am I required to answer yes when employers ask if I was every "terminated for cause"?
This is more of a technical question.
Most applications have two parts, a questionnaire and required submission of a DD240
DD240 will state: "reason for separation: non-selection. permanent promotion"
questionnaire will state: "have you been terminated from any employment for cause? yes or no"
Yes or no?
This is more of a technical question.
Most applications have two parts, a questionnaire and required submission of a DD240
DD240 will state: "reason for separation: non-selection. permanent promotion"
questionnaire will state: "have you been terminated from any employment for cause? yes or no"
Yes or no?
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No, that's not terminated for cause. Termination for cause would be if you were kicked out for misconduct.
Legally, you're considered a voluntary separation because you were offered to remain in service but declined. If you were not offered selcon that would be an involuntary separation, although still not termination for cause, just unable to remain in service like an enlisted person hitting RCP.
Legally, you're considered a voluntary separation because you were offered to remain in service but declined. If you were not offered selcon that would be an involuntary separation, although still not termination for cause, just unable to remain in service like an enlisted person hitting RCP.
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Since I've retired, my observation is that the only thing most civilian employers are interested in is did you receive an Honorable or Dishonorable Discharge. The rest of the details are just minutia that they neither understand nor care about.
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Let me explain something to you about civilian employers, they don't give a tinkers damn about anything military.
They'll thank you for your service and that's where it ends. They won't have a clue what SELCON is and wouldn't care or understood if you told them.
This goes for rank as well.
They'll thank you for your service and that's where it ends. They won't have a clue what SELCON is and wouldn't care or understood if you told them.
This goes for rank as well.
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CPT (Join to see)
Yep, they will oooooooh and awwwwwww and part the hall in your presence regardless of actual accomplishments. Seriously, ever notice how much thanks and credit we all get, but then compare that relative to our achievements and our civilian peers with similar achievements. Become an NCO or an Officer of any rank and wow we are all sorts of awesome, when in reality a CPT would be like a store manager at best and maybe a LTC a regional manager for said stores and NCO's floor shift supervisors.
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SGT Chris Padgett
Ha!
I was working at an automotive dealership. I was the fixed end manager, meaning the service and parts dept head.
I put out an indeed ad for a service writer.
I get a lead on a guy who has this magnificent resume. I bring him in for an interview and he tells me how he was in the military and his last assignment was as a BMO.
The interview went like this:
Me: You ever have direct contact with customers?
Him: No, I reported directly to the Battalion Commander or his XO. (he goes on to tell me his responsibilities) The Motor Sgt or team leaders had contact with the Company Motor Sgts.
Me: Did you ever work directly with techs? (mechanics)
Him: No, that was delegated to the motor sergeant.
Me: So you never actually worked in the shops?
Him: well I was in charge of the shop. I was responsible for every aspect of what went on.
Me: It sounds to me like the Motor Sgt is the guy I really need to talk to.
I did hire him. He lasted about 3 months. He was found of delegating and not so much doing the things he was supposed to do. He moved on before the axe fell.
I was working at an automotive dealership. I was the fixed end manager, meaning the service and parts dept head.
I put out an indeed ad for a service writer.
I get a lead on a guy who has this magnificent resume. I bring him in for an interview and he tells me how he was in the military and his last assignment was as a BMO.
The interview went like this:
Me: You ever have direct contact with customers?
Him: No, I reported directly to the Battalion Commander or his XO. (he goes on to tell me his responsibilities) The Motor Sgt or team leaders had contact with the Company Motor Sgts.
Me: Did you ever work directly with techs? (mechanics)
Him: No, that was delegated to the motor sergeant.
Me: So you never actually worked in the shops?
Him: well I was in charge of the shop. I was responsible for every aspect of what went on.
Me: It sounds to me like the Motor Sgt is the guy I really need to talk to.
I did hire him. He lasted about 3 months. He was found of delegating and not so much doing the things he was supposed to do. He moved on before the axe fell.
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