Posted on Jan 12, 2016
Does one US military branch think it's superior?
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Do you feel there is still an "inner service rivalry" between the Service Branches or that any one branch thinks they are Superior?
RP Members what do you think - be honest and professional in your responses please! Thank you
With all the deployments and joint operations that we have been involved in over the last 15 plus years of war and prior to that as well, aren't we all part of something a little bigger than our own service branches? We represent the United States of America in so many ways! We represent the freedom that all of the American citizens enjoy, to include ourselves!
For myself, I think is great to that we have the Navy/Army/Air Force rivalry on the football field and other sports, but I think it is important to realize the importance of joint operations and synchronization among the service branches.
I don't think that anyone branch is better than the other. That is my personal feeling.
They all have their specific missions, training philosophies, challenges, and characteristics that make them unique and special, but does that make them inferior or superior to the other service branches?
I'm sorry if I didn't tag some of the specific service branches!
RP Members what do you think - be honest and professional in your responses please! Thank you
With all the deployments and joint operations that we have been involved in over the last 15 plus years of war and prior to that as well, aren't we all part of something a little bigger than our own service branches? We represent the United States of America in so many ways! We represent the freedom that all of the American citizens enjoy, to include ourselves!
For myself, I think is great to that we have the Navy/Army/Air Force rivalry on the football field and other sports, but I think it is important to realize the importance of joint operations and synchronization among the service branches.
I don't think that anyone branch is better than the other. That is my personal feeling.
They all have their specific missions, training philosophies, challenges, and characteristics that make them unique and special, but does that make them inferior or superior to the other service branches?
I'm sorry if I didn't tag some of the specific service branches!
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Yes, there is rivalry inter service and each one thinks they are better. Did you go to high school? What High School thinks they aren’t better than other high schools? Or colleges? Or professional sports? Keep it in perspective tho: I ain’t good at flying airplanes or helicopters ( gotta say I might have been better pilot on a few of the helicopter rides I took) but, I am good at tactics, effective fire, and I know how to throw a hand grenade with amazing accuracy. We all have our strengths and weaknesses, but, it’ll never stop the rivalry
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and it is The Military Police Platoon that greets you at the bridge head when you legs arrive to cross.
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It is called "Esprit De Corps". While I am certain that every branch would like to believe it is the "best" I know that the Marine Corps does not have that problem. There is a big difference between believing and truly knowing. We have no need to believe. We know that Heavens gates are guarded by Untied States Marines.
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If I was really forced to make a choice, I would say the U.S. Navy is the best of them all. Not because I've served for 24 yrs in it but because we can do sea (on it and below it), air AND land (Navy SEALS). NO OTHER branch can make that claim of versatility! Go Navy!!!
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1SG Klayton W. Hayes
Army has water crafts, trains, air (fixed and rotor) assets, and The Soldiers with boots on the ground.
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interservice rivalry... East v West rivalry... unit rivalry... MOS rivalry... land-sea-air rivalry... (i.e. grunts vs wing) Enlisted v Officer rivalry... Mustang v Ring Knocker rivalry... Active v Reserve rivalry... State rivalry... Old school v new guy rivalry... Hell, we rival everyone don't we?
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I wouldn't call it a rivalry .. but there is a rumor that the Navy and Marines have been on to each other all the way back to wooden ships.... It's just a matter of understanding.... For the most part sailors are individuals.... These are folks who remember boot camp as a place where they lingered while the administration shuffled paperwork and determined our next duty... that took eight weeks... While we waited we learned how to take showers and to clean clothes. Time went by.... We went to our new duty stations the same individuals we were before we enlisted... Only now we were wearing our swanky blues and we were clean behind the ears....
The Marines on the other hand are sad individuals who have voluntarily embraced herd mentality from about age twelve. Marines are folks who couldn't wait to join up to become part of the big transition down there in the swamp .... Liberal Archaeologist from schools like Harvard, have given this phenomenon a name which I have forgotten but it is enough to know that it has been determined by these scientists that there are thousands of young civilians who are dreaming, as we speak, of the day when they can sign up just to have their individuality beaten out of them and replaced with herd mentality. That's why their uniforms will be proudly worn exactly the same way and why these new Marines will spend countless hours shining the same belt buckle or searching for the same elusive gear adrift ... It took sixteen weeks to learn that... Is this healthy? Those Harvard essays didn't say.
The Air Force is a civilian job only you have to wear a uniform.... Just knowing there are individuals who understood the Air Force before they joined up is enough to excite admiration in any free thinking male....Thus there is no rivalry between the Navy and Air Force... only admiration.
Marines would not understand, unless of course, it was published in the plan which all are ordered to read .... with pictures to color (attached) .
The Army is something sailors have never seen.... The Army just doesn't get that far out into the ocean.
The Marines on the other hand are sad individuals who have voluntarily embraced herd mentality from about age twelve. Marines are folks who couldn't wait to join up to become part of the big transition down there in the swamp .... Liberal Archaeologist from schools like Harvard, have given this phenomenon a name which I have forgotten but it is enough to know that it has been determined by these scientists that there are thousands of young civilians who are dreaming, as we speak, of the day when they can sign up just to have their individuality beaten out of them and replaced with herd mentality. That's why their uniforms will be proudly worn exactly the same way and why these new Marines will spend countless hours shining the same belt buckle or searching for the same elusive gear adrift ... It took sixteen weeks to learn that... Is this healthy? Those Harvard essays didn't say.
The Air Force is a civilian job only you have to wear a uniform.... Just knowing there are individuals who understood the Air Force before they joined up is enough to excite admiration in any free thinking male....Thus there is no rivalry between the Navy and Air Force... only admiration.
Marines would not understand, unless of course, it was published in the plan which all are ordered to read .... with pictures to color (attached) .
The Army is something sailors have never seen.... The Army just doesn't get that far out into the ocean.
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LCpl Michael Cappello
As for the ongoing good natured "tweaking of noses" between the Navy and the Corps, that has gone on forever and (hopefully) continue to do so. It has become part of heritage and tradition. The rest is called "Esprit de Corps". It is the heartfelt pride in your own branch. As for those who will repeatedly point out that the Marine Corps is a "department" of the Navy, I have to be truthful and say "YES" it is. It is the MENS department.
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Al Reynolds
Dang, LCpl Michael Cappello, your read was so on point and well written that I thought for a moment I might be reading one of my old E-7 Chief's memorandum ... especially the one about sending me to work the bilges until I would either stop breathing or I would fall so in love with the bilges, the engine room, the Navy, God and Country that I wouldn't forsake that dark, dank warm spot even for one night of Cinderella liberty in say … the EM club, Naval Weapons Station, Earle, N.J. ....
I was still wiping bilge oil when he retired E-9. But his memory is fondly remembered... Thus my response to you is doubly nice in that I can go-mingle your rant of today with that of my old chiefs scowl of yesteryear.
You pegged it for sure.... The traditions of swatting one another over uniforms, bugles in the middle of the night (0530 is the middle of the night), duties served and duties yet to be served are all spot on.... These are things my shipmates and I discussed over long coffee breaks taken on the mess-deck or whilst lingering about on the fantail where we commented on important issues about life or the really big world we lived in...
It was all deep stuff with never a consensus, however, we sailors have often wondered about coffee..... Are Marines allowed coffee before their second enlistment? When are they allowed their first cup.... is that first cup taken with cream and sugar .... and with great ceremony and fanfare ... Would you know anything about that?
I was still wiping bilge oil when he retired E-9. But his memory is fondly remembered... Thus my response to you is doubly nice in that I can go-mingle your rant of today with that of my old chiefs scowl of yesteryear.
You pegged it for sure.... The traditions of swatting one another over uniforms, bugles in the middle of the night (0530 is the middle of the night), duties served and duties yet to be served are all spot on.... These are things my shipmates and I discussed over long coffee breaks taken on the mess-deck or whilst lingering about on the fantail where we commented on important issues about life or the really big world we lived in...
It was all deep stuff with never a consensus, however, we sailors have often wondered about coffee..... Are Marines allowed coffee before their second enlistment? When are they allowed their first cup.... is that first cup taken with cream and sugar .... and with great ceremony and fanfare ... Would you know anything about that?
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LCpl Michael Cappello
Out damn standing. I have to admit that heritage and tradition do mean a lot. As well they should. I have always believed that in order to truly know who you are now, and who you will become in the future, you must know your past. One of the saddest things that I personally witnesses was when they canked the rule allowing PO3 and up to grow beards. Not only was it something sailors looked forward to (in addition to the pay that comes with the crow) it was tradition. Just like when the Corps tried to do away with our "High and Tight". No jar looks complete without its lid. To be quite honest with everybody, I am a little ticked that they stopped the custom of "tacking on" new rank insignia and our "blood stripes". It was a rite of passage. Granted, there were a few asshats who wound up taking things entirely too far. But it is IMHO just another example of the politically correct attitude of the powers that be (scumbags most of them. many of whom have never served) toward a profession they will never understand.
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LCpl Michael Cappello
We may pork each other in the spirit of rivalry, but let anyone who is an outsider crack wise and you will see the other aspect of camaraderie. We have earned the right to joke with each other. When it comes down to it though we are ALL doing the same thing. We are signing on the dotted ling to "Protect and Defend" our Country and our Constitution "against ALL enemies, both foreign and domestic". I am proud as I can be for ALL people who have served, are serving, or ever will serve in out nations Armed Forces.
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Every member of every service is correct to to feel his/her branch is superior. Only one is right.
In similar light, I used to teach my ROTC students that the minute that they learned that they were branched (Signal, Engineer, QM, Infantry, etc.) that each and every one of them had just been branched into the best branch of the Army. In answer to the inevitable quizzical looks as to how that could be possible, I told them that if they did not feel their branch was superior, that I didn't want to have anything to do with them!
In similar light, I used to teach my ROTC students that the minute that they learned that they were branched (Signal, Engineer, QM, Infantry, etc.) that each and every one of them had just been branched into the best branch of the Army. In answer to the inevitable quizzical looks as to how that could be possible, I told them that if they did not feel their branch was superior, that I didn't want to have anything to do with them!
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