Posted on Aug 17, 2021
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The case itself is about Anthrax however, if the Covid vaccine is being used for anything other than what is on the label that is pending FDA approval, does that make it unlawful under the references in the court case about Experimental Drugs / Emergency Use Drugs??? The court case is on the premises of federal law (10 U.S.C. § 1107), Presidential Executive Order (Executive Order 13139), & DoD Directive 6200.2.
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Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen
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Quit looking for outs and get vaccinated! Your other option is getting sicker than hell and perhaps meeting some ICU nurses who care more about your health than you.
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SGT Dan Gray
SGT Dan Gray
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SCPO Jose Centeno - And what I am saying is that you cant request or demand this. The law is the law and the 1st Amendment clearly states that you CANNOT make a law or even a mandate without giving an exemption for religions. Therefor if they dont want to get the shot they cant be made to get it. And if their religion does not allow you to wear a facial covering as some do, then you cant be forced to wear a mask. And sorry this is not myopic, its called the 1st Amendment of the Constitution. And no seat belts are not mandatory either as you can get a medical exemption for not having to wear them. I know as I have one and its due to my spine having 40 pounds of metal holding it together as well as my nerve damage in my lower body that does not allow me to be forced to sit in one spot without major medical issues like not being able to use my legs when they go completely numb because of this. And how are you going to move if you are tied down with a seatbelt?

And sorry whats so damn hard for you to understand that the Jacobson decision no longer apples here especially since the SCOTUS heard arguments over the mandates just friday last (1/7/2022) and already 6 of them have showed they dont agree with Biden nor the Sec of Defense for any mandates.

And did you read your post? tell me just how the hell you are going to be six feet apart while in formation? Its not possible!
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Capt Gregory Prickett
Capt Gregory Prickett
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SCPO Jose Centeno & Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen - Y'all should just block Danny Gray. He doesn't understand the concept behind the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, and especially behind the SCOTUS decision in Employment Division v. Smith.
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LCpl Lloyd Lesperance
LCpl Lloyd Lesperance
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As someone who is married to a nurse, they have seen more people in the hospital who are vaccinated for covid than non vaccinated, this so called vaccine is nothing more than a control tactic that government is pushing.
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SGT Dan Gray
SGT Dan Gray
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No they should just block you Pickett, as Gunny Sgt Emory said, you CANT be that damn stupid, that level of stupidity does not even exist!
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Capt Gregory Prickett
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What Supreme Court case? Doe v Rumsfeld never made it to the Supreme Court. Hell, it never made it through the Circuit Court of Appeals, as the FDA changed the label use to include the one the military was using it for.

The decision was a trial court decision, so it's not precedent. You'll have to take the shot.
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CWO3 Us Marine
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Thanks. I didn't bother to check.
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1SG Terry Folsom
1SG Terry Folsom
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I'm glad someone answered his actual question.
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What order? There is no order mandating DoD personnel to get the covid vaccine at this moment.

It's supposed to have full certification by end of August/beginning of September. The memo issued by SECDEF said that there needs to be a plan in place by 15 September OR whenever full certification happens - whichever comes first.

Also who is using the covid vaccine for anything other than what the EUA authorizes it for?

The military mandating the covid vaccine will not be "unlawful." You have a choice like everyone else - either you get it when it's mandated OR you can face UCMJ. You can ETS if you're close to your ETS. There's choices.
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Cpl Benjamin Long
Cpl Benjamin Long
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Courts decide what is lawful not a mandate from a commander.
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Cpl Benjamin Long
Cpl Benjamin Long
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Also people don't Face ucmj... Punitive action is typical a court martial, which is a court hearing... And the court doesn't always rule in your favor, and is subject to scrutiny of higher courts and the supreme court if they wish it.
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SSgt Chuck “Gunz” Gundlach USMC Ret., MBA
SSgt Chuck “Gunz” Gundlach USMC Ret., MBA
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That choice you mention, is cohesion, when their is a penalty if you don’t take the other supposed choice…
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SSgt Chuck “Gunz” Gundlach USMC Ret., MBA
SSgt Chuck “Gunz” Gundlach USMC Ret., MBA
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Cpl Benjamin Long - …and they have, it’s now in the hands of the courts…
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