Posted on Aug 17, 2021
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The case itself is about Anthrax however, if the Covid vaccine is being used for anything other than what is on the label that is pending FDA approval, does that make it unlawful under the references in the court case about Experimental Drugs / Emergency Use Drugs??? The court case is on the premises of federal law (10 U.S.C. § 1107), Presidential Executive Order (Executive Order 13139), & DoD Directive 6200.2.
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Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen
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Quit looking for outs and get vaccinated! Your other option is getting sicker than hell and perhaps meeting some ICU nurses who care more about your health than you.
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FN Steven Santucci
FN Steven Santucci
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SSgt David Wilkins - It is people like you you who DON'T get the flu shot that caused the flu to be a problem. IF EVERYONE GOT A FLU SHOT IT COULD NOT MUTATE INTO DIFFERENT VARIANTS. It would have been stopped years ago, but people DON'T get shots and allow this virus to mutate (change the virus status). I was one of those people. Now I get my my shot every year, just like Covid shots. Yes I can stills spread Covid, but chances are I won't go to the hospital. THIS IS NOT ABOUT CHOICE OR FREEDOMS ITS ABOUT HELPING AMERICA TO WIPE OUT A DISEASE.
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SSgt David Wilkins
SSgt David Wilkins
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FN Steven Santucci - Personally I do not need the shot, because according to MY doctors, I am immune to the COVID flu, along with other flu viruses, that are out there, BECAUSE I have been exposed to very many viruses in my civilian job as a garbageman, and have built up a very strong immune system because of it. If you are afraid, then get the shot, BUT as an active duty military person, you SHOULD be healthy enough to fight it off naturally, same as the regular flu, unless you are immunocompromised.
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FN Steven Santucci
FN Steven Santucci
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Ok, I have and will continue to receive boosters not because I am scared of Covid but because it is the right thing to do. You do what you want, I am tired of trying to talk sense to people who don't get it. But when people around you get Covid, the flu, or any other disease because you refuse to take care of yourself, you have no one to blame but yourself. Thank you and have a nice day!
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FN Steven Santucci
FN Steven Santucci
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This isn't about Freedom or rights its about helping others to rid us of this horrible disease. Fact last year every hospital over 90% of patients that were admitted for Covid WERE NON VACCINATED. less that 5% of patients WERE VACCINATED. NUMBERS DON'T LIE, PEOPLE DO. IF YOU DON'T GET VACCINATED THE SAME THING WILL HAPPEN THIS YEAR.
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Capt Gregory Prickett
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What Supreme Court case? Doe v Rumsfeld never made it to the Supreme Court. Hell, it never made it through the Circuit Court of Appeals, as the FDA changed the label use to include the one the military was using it for.

The decision was a trial court decision, so it's not precedent. You'll have to take the shot.
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CWO3 Us Marine
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Thanks. I didn't bother to check.
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1SG Terry Folsom
1SG Terry Folsom
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I'm glad someone answered his actual question.
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SGT Glen Adkins
SGT Glen Adkins
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Or leave the service.
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What order? There is no order mandating DoD personnel to get the covid vaccine at this moment.

It's supposed to have full certification by end of August/beginning of September. The memo issued by SECDEF said that there needs to be a plan in place by 15 September OR whenever full certification happens - whichever comes first.

Also who is using the covid vaccine for anything other than what the EUA authorizes it for?

The military mandating the covid vaccine will not be "unlawful." You have a choice like everyone else - either you get it when it's mandated OR you can face UCMJ. You can ETS if you're close to your ETS. There's choices.
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Cpl Benjamin Long
Cpl Benjamin Long
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Courts decide what is lawful not a mandate from a commander.
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Cpl Benjamin Long
Cpl Benjamin Long
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Also people don't Face ucmj... Punitive action is typical a court martial, which is a court hearing... And the court doesn't always rule in your favor, and is subject to scrutiny of higher courts and the supreme court if they wish it.
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SSgt Chuck “Gunz” Gundlach USMC Ret., MBA
SSgt Chuck “Gunz” Gundlach USMC Ret., MBA
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That choice you mention, is cohesion, when their is a penalty if you don’t take the other supposed choice…
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SSgt Chuck “Gunz” Gundlach USMC Ret., MBA
SSgt Chuck “Gunz” Gundlach USMC Ret., MBA
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Cpl Benjamin Long - …and they have, it’s now in the hands of the courts…
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