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In answer to your question, "As We Bring Infected Americans Back..." yes. As the United States coordinates the transportation and treatment of these individuals, there should be no problems unless there is some fluid sharing with the infected and non-infected. Could happen, but I doubt it.

However, the problem is not with the Americans the United States brings back. The problem is with those who come to the U.S. who have not been identified with Ebola. The ones who come by way of another location after the contracted. Those are the population you cannot control and would spread the virus unchecked. Isn't the Ebola incubation somewhere around 2 weeks where it is undetectable? How many people might have this and travel and spread that is the real safety issue to the U.S. IMO
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Cpl (Join to see) Very true. The guy in Dallas lied about being around ebola patients when asked.
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This is the one we know about...

How many others are not going to get treatment and staying home infecting others. You may have seen in the ongoing reporting that the relatives of that guy in Dallas did not want their place sanitized and resisted quarantine. Again this is the one we know about.
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Which is why I believe we should not be worried about being politically correct and close our borders to anyone coming from one of the infected areas. At least until they have been quarantined for the incubation period. This is proof the CDC's questioner isn't doing the job of protecting American citizens. I'm sorry but the guy isn't even American. and I will bet the family he was coming to visit is undocumented. Probably why they are being so uncooperative. Though others might argue its my conservative paranoia. But this is no time for political correctness.
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I think we'll keep it in check because if we're so anal during the process of deployment & redeployment, they'll go the extra 100 steps to make sure all civilians and soldiers are checked thoroughly
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I have lost my trust in the CDC. This was BEFORE the Ebola. The CDC can't even handle Anthrax!
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Ebola. Are You Confident We Can Keep The Virus In Check As We Bring Infected Americans Back To The U.S.For Treatment?
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No problem. The real risk is if it mutates to be airborne. Appropriate precautions are now in place to protect against this unlikely outcome. There is zero contagion risk at this point. A new effective treatment for Ebola is cocktail of monoclonal antibodies that is available in very limited quantities:

http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/04/health/experimental-ebola-serum

http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2014/08/the-secret-ebola-treatment/375525/

http://globalbiodefense.com/2014/07/30/mapp-biopharmaceutical-awarded-funding-ebola-drug/

http://www.defyrus.com/images/News-July152014-ZMAb-license.pdf
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SGT Daley. We can secure US Southern Land Border with a decent fence, seismic intrusion detectors, and concerted randomly timed patrols. But, as we know from Prohibition days, it would be extremely difficult and perhaps very unpopular to secure the ocean, air, and northern borders. What we need is nationwide consciousness about symptoms, clinical consciousness about symptoms and key routes of referral, quaranteen facilities, and rapid ramp up of production of emergency vaccines. Warmest Regards, Sandy
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SGT Daley. I wasn't saying we shouldn't secure our Southern Border. We should invest $5.4 Billion to finish the fence mASAP. Not for sake of disease control, but for the sake of many other priorities. Sandy
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SGT Daley, Whatever we do a really smart adversary intent on doing us harm may smuggle vials, live animals, and/or dead meat carrying Ebola virus into the US . . . so our only real protection will be ordinary nurses and clinicians alert to the signs and symptoms . . . a clear referral pathway to effective quaranteen and treatment . . . identification and isolation of secondary exposure contacts . . . and rapidly ramped up production of effective therapeutic products for domestic and foreign markets. Warmest Regards, Sandy

http://www.empowher.com/ebola/content/scientist-held-smuggling-ebola-research-vials-us

http://metro.co.uk/2014/07/31/ebola-virus-could-enter-britain-through-contaminated-exotic-bush-meat-4816294/

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/494920/Ebola-Black-market-monkey-meat-could-see-virus-hit-UK
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Here is my response - I thought you could only get ebola through direct body fluid contact? That's what Obama & the CDC said... Why are these clowns in Chem suits?

RIGHT NOW: All 5 passengers showing flu-like symptoms have been removed from the ‪#‎Emirates‬ plane at Logan Airport and are being taken to local hospitals.

Meanwhile, a passenger just shared this video from inside the plane.

Team coverage coming up on NewsCenter 5, streaming live online: http://on.wcvb.com/WCVBlivevideo
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Sir, I was confident, and I guess I still am, but my confidence level has dropped just today (3 October). In our area (DC/Baltimore) there were announcements of two suspected cases of ebola today. I guess this is the knee-jerk reaction that's bound to follow the Dallas case and the tragedy in Africa.

I admit that I'm not all that worried, because I hear that (a) a person must be noticeably sick to transmit the disease and (b) it can only be transmitted through body fluids. I believe that our health system is up to the task. Unfortunately, we seem to be programmed to "soldier on" through just about anything, and that's where the biggest problem arises, in my opinion - sick people continuing to go to work and interact with others.
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The problem is we can't always trust the host country to administer the medicine. We send the medicine, who knows what the patient will get, or where the medicine will end up (sold).
By simply flying the patient, takes about the same time to get the medicine to him (or her), and we are (usually) better equipped to deal with complications, increasing the survivability of the patient.
Ebola isn't spread trough the air, but through contact, so there's no fear of quarantine failure.
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SSG Ed Mikus
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can we? yes,

will we? i have doubts.
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LTC Paul Labrador
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I don't think we'll have issues containing it. Remember, the reason why it spreads so readily in Africa, are the relatively primitive conditions in Africa.
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LTC Paul Labrador The catch is viral mutations. If this thing goes from blood-born to air-born, totally different situation. 1 plane trip and you have 100 points of contact and sources. Viruses mutate rapidly, so we need this locked down in the short term vs giving it time to mutate.
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SGT Charles Napierala
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Sir,

There's a treatment and a cure for the Ebola Virus. They've been testing it on apes for a long time and have finally had the outbreak they needed to test it on human specimen. In my opinion, the Ebola is going to treated and contained in the most professional manner. I strongly believe that these two will be the turning point for this test cure that will be hailed as, possibly, the greatest scientific advancement of the decade.
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While I understand that public information that is out right now does not indicate there is a cure; there is, in fact, a cure. It is an experimental, top-secret serum that's administered into the bloodstream via IM Injection. I understand that there are no current publicized cures for the Ebola Virus, but there is a cure, and you will see soon.
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