Posted on Oct 31, 2018
Madison Holloway
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Yeah, I know, you've all told me that I'm never going to get into any branch of the military with only one kidney. The Army has already disqualified me and now I'm in the middle of trying to enlist in the Air Force. People keep telling me that I have no chance of joining, but I'm making more progress than you've all expected. My recruiter has my medical papers and he knows all about my one kidney. And yet, he didn't turn me down and give me an automatic disqualification. He said I can go take the ASVAB, which I took today and scored a 94 on, and then he said that he'll send my scores down to be looked at so that I can be considered for MEPS.

So....when does this so-called "automatic disqualification" show up, because I ain't seeing it. I took the ASVAB, scored high on it, and now I'm being considered for MEPS. And what happens when my recruiter says I'm in the clear for MEPS? What happens when I pass the physical and MEPS lets me swear in? What happens when they notice that my one kidney doesn't impede me in any way? Chances are you all will still be saying "You're never gonna get in! You're disqualified!"

I honestly just typed this up because I like that I'm proving you guys wrong so far. I've made it farther than any of you have anticipated and I'm just the type of guy who likes to rub things in.
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SFC Robert Walton
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Well the post I answered was posted a year ago. OOPPPPSSSSS
What happened Madison Get your wings clipped now you have nothing to say?
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SFC Robert Walton
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WOW what a way to start making friends. If you do happen to make it in you won't last long not with that attitude.
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SSgt Michael Bowen
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Your the type of guy that likes to rub things in( Gloat ) . Then you need to stay a civilian . Because all that makes you is a smug arrogant douche . You have already been rejected twice that should have told you something but I guess being thick headed is also one of your issues . Automatic disqualifier does not mean people will not try and help you to see if there is some way to get you a waver. and some times you can make it all the way to basic and even almost through it only for them to tell you You can't stay or even finish your training . And they send you home . You may want to hold off on your gloating and snide remarks you haven't made it in yet And from the sounds of it you are still at the very beginning , Because until you report to basic and your training is done and get to your first unit you ain't in . And even then until you have served at least 180 days you wont get counted as having even served and you are Not a vet . Your post made it clear you are smug , snide, disrespectful to people that are walking the extra mile for you. and belligerent . I see your post was a year ago how did it work out for you ?
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James MacKenzie
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Kid, you need to understand that recruiters aren't paid to assess details of your medical status. Their job is to recruit you. If you're not obviously unfit, they're not going to turn you away. After all, DoD policies change: Something that would shoot you down one day might be all right the next. Additionally, some recruits have weird medical conditions that wouldn't actually disqualify them, or find a way to finagle an exception to the rules.

Your biggest obstacle to success isn't actually your kidney. It's what's between your ears. You need to learn not to antagonize people unnecessarily. It's good to take pride in proving you're more capable or successful than ohters expected, but don't make that a reason for them to try harder to prove you wrong.
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SSG Lynn Skocdopole
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no matter which branch the department of Defense has requirements to meet and each branch has its own subset of requirements for eligible candidates. That being said the military life is a harsh working environment not suited to most people. The reason for this is the world is harsh enough without war. Basic service membership requires the healthiest physical options for daily use be available 24/7/52! example, some High school graduate ants to be a chef and feels the Military can prepare them is a logical endeavor but reality says one must be able soldier to survive all combat situations including a hazmat environment on any given day. Missing a major organ makes you a casualty 99 times out of 100. The military is not in the process of finding a casualty to recruit as set by the US Congress! Just to be fair my gramps was a 4F dairy farmer and supplied milk to the U.S. forces in training camps during WW2, so not being in the military is still open option to support the Military. Veterans organizations worldwide need supporters 24/7!
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SSG Ray Elliott
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The ASVAB doesn't have anything to do with your medical qualifications. If your recruiter knows about it, and has your medical paperwork I would proceed through the process. The enlistment physical is where the final determination on whether or not you are physically qualified to serve. Different branches of service may have different requirements. Whatever you do don't lie and omit the fact that you only have one kidney. Go to the physical and answer their questions as truthfully as possible. I'm guessing your recruiter is looking into whether or not this will be a disqualifier for your enlistment, I would talk to him / her and ask about it.
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I read other responses to this after I posted, it does appear generally you will be disqualified at the entry physical, but on rare occasions a waiver may be granted based on the function of your other kidney and why the first one failed. Hopefully your recruiter is pursuing this option.
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CPL Joseph Elinger
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It's not The Recruiter job to "turn you down" for a non immediately visible medical shortcoming.
You get a Medical Screening: They also check for scars, tattoos, etc..
If you had a Kidney removed for Donated Transplant to another person, there will be an easily Dr detectable surgical scar.
If your Kidney was removed due to a deficiency, yes it could be done Laprascopic to minimize scaring. I'm a 58 yr old American man of "European" household. To most of my era & culture, unless you're a Movie Star,
a Model, or perhaps a Gigolo, a scar is no worse than a birthmark.
No judgements.
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SPC Vonnie Jones
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Madison, wht would you want to rub success in the faces of people? True success speaks for itself. If you get in great, but don't come in with a chip on your shoulder. Feel grateful,privileged and honored to serve, because their are so many that can't. Also know that a lot on this sight speak from experience, some worked in positions of authority and tried helping others in your current position. I was a medic and I can tell you depending on the current need of enlistment rules that may not normally be inforced may be more inforced if enlistment is already up. Madison I wish you the best, but attitude counts for 80% of your success.
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CPT Jill Carney
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If you get in, it doesn't mean they'll keep you. My son wanted to enlist so bad but I kept telling him he wouldn't pass the physical because he had Legg Calve Perthes disease as a child, resulting in a bad hip & other issues with one leg. He wouldn't give it up, though, so I figured he could talk to a recruiter & then he'd have to believe them. Amazingly, they said it would not keep him from getting in as long as he passed his MEPS physical. We gave them copies of all his medical records & he passed the MEPS physical. I was shocked! A few months later he headed to basic. However, that hip did not hold up to the training, the Army doc wanted to know why he didn't disclose the disease during recruitment because there was no documentation of it whatsoever in his medical files! He almost faced disciplinary action for it but they finally came to the conclusion that it was the recruiter/MEPS who had falsified his medical file. Ultimately though, my son was devastated by all this!
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TSgt John Burres
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Patience young Padowan........ sometimes even automatic things take time to happen.
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