Posted on Jan 1, 2021
f someone received a General Under Honorable Conditions discharge, can the military take away certain badges?
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Hello ladies and gentlemen of the Armed forces can anyone help me with this I am wondering if you received a general under honorable conditions can the take away certain badges for example my DD214 is missing my Air Assault wings badge and to be honest those were truly earned now part 2 I don't even know if I was supposed to get a deployment badge because when we went to Honduras we were only a peace keeping force and to train the Honduran army so I seen no real conflict while I was down there and we were never called to go to Granada so I just don't know if we got any deployment badges but dang it I earned every inch of that Air Assault wings badge and if so can you please point me in the right direction to have them put on my DD214 or just leave it alone because my God I been out of the service for 34 years now lol ?
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SPC Kenneth James AR600-8-22 para 1-32 has the criteria for revocation of the Air Assault Badge.
(8) Air Assault Badge. Any Air Assault Badge may be revoked by the awarding command, listed in para 8–26, based upon the determination that an assigned or attached individual was guilty of cowardice, refusal to fly in a tactical exercise, or gross negligence in the performance of air assault duties. Requests for revocation of an Air Assault Badge awarded to individuals no longer assigned or attached to the awarding authority's command will be forwarded through command channels to Commandant, U.S. Army Infantry School (ATSH–IP), 1 Karker Street, Fort Benning, GA 31905–4500
SSI-FWTS (aka combat patch) is in AR670-1 para 19-17. There is no operation listed that covers Honduras. Just Grenada and Panama. You can look in AR600-8-22 to see if the AFEM was authorized for the mission.
Updating your DD214. There is a DD Form 149. You send that to the Army Board of Corrections. https://www.defense.gov/ask-us/faq/Article/1777745/how-can-i-make-a-correction-to-my-military-service-records-or-request-an-upgrad/
You will need supporting documents like a copy of the certificate from air assault school. They'll issue a DD215.
Did you earn the Air Assault badge at The Air Assault School once it was established after 1979 or prior. You'll want to look at AR600-8-22 as there is a provision for AASLT prior to Army recognition of the course.
(8) Air Assault Badge. Any Air Assault Badge may be revoked by the awarding command, listed in para 8–26, based upon the determination that an assigned or attached individual was guilty of cowardice, refusal to fly in a tactical exercise, or gross negligence in the performance of air assault duties. Requests for revocation of an Air Assault Badge awarded to individuals no longer assigned or attached to the awarding authority's command will be forwarded through command channels to Commandant, U.S. Army Infantry School (ATSH–IP), 1 Karker Street, Fort Benning, GA 31905–4500
SSI-FWTS (aka combat patch) is in AR670-1 para 19-17. There is no operation listed that covers Honduras. Just Grenada and Panama. You can look in AR600-8-22 to see if the AFEM was authorized for the mission.
Updating your DD214. There is a DD Form 149. You send that to the Army Board of Corrections. https://www.defense.gov/ask-us/faq/Article/1777745/how-can-i-make-a-correction-to-my-military-service-records-or-request-an-upgrad/
You will need supporting documents like a copy of the certificate from air assault school. They'll issue a DD215.
Did you earn the Air Assault badge at The Air Assault School once it was established after 1979 or prior. You'll want to look at AR600-8-22 as there is a provision for AASLT prior to Army recognition of the course.
How can I make a correction to my military service records, or request an upgrade to my...
In order to get your military service records corrected, or your discharge upgraded, you must contact your respective service Board for Correction of Military Records or fill out and mail a DD Form 149, Application for Correction of Military Record Under,
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SPC Kenneth James
Thank you sir I didn't think the Army just would not give what was earned but if it was part of the punishment they usually would tell you as they did take away your badges I guess I am saying that I was not notified and I know the Army normally would tell you if they did
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SPC Kenneth James
Yes sir I did I went to Air Assault School in 1983 sir and yes I did pass my first sergeant would not have it any other way I can honestly say I finished the 10 mile road March in 1hr and 42 minutes and truly when I first went I was terrified of heights but once I faced it they could not keep me away from the black hawks lol and as I said they never said that it was taken away from me but it is not on my DD214
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LTC Jason Mackay
SPC Kenneth James your records would have the revocation orders revoking the badge. So if it were revoked, they’d be there. Recommend you do a SF180 and request your records, then scrub against the 214 and documents you have and do one big DD149 and get it fixed. If not for you, then your family.
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About the AA wings, I have no idea if those can be stripped of you. But, my common sense is telling me that even with a GUHC Discharge, I don't see why they would take them away. As for Honduras, that answer is no. Honduras has never, as far as I can recollect, warranted an SSI-FWTS patch.
That being said, if your AA wings are not on your 214 and you have the documents showing you earned them, requests for change must be processed through the Department of Defense, Army Review Boards Agency (ARBA)
That being said, if your AA wings are not on your 214 and you have the documents showing you earned them, requests for change must be processed through the Department of Defense, Army Review Boards Agency (ARBA)
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SPC Kenneth James
Thank you sergeant I kind of figured about the Honduran thing because we were always told the truth of course you guys are not here to fight but train and keep the peace they never lied about it I was just hoping I as my whole unit made some type of honor for our great country
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