Posted on May 30, 2020
Failed AIT , reclass to a combat mos , can I get discharged?
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I'm in the national guard and failed 92y AIT and getting reclass to combat engineer. I didnt sign up for a combat mos . What would happen if I refused to do that MOS? Would I be able to get out . I dont want to quit and know it's the needs of the army but I really dont want that mos .
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You signed up for training in the MOS and your contract states that you are not guaranteed the MOS but the training. You can separate at your ETS or you can just not show up and get kicked out.
It’s one weekend a month; 39 days out of 365 in a year. Half of your training time is doing normal Soldier stuff that you would do no matter what your MOS is. People don’t join the NG for a career, they join for the benefits. Have some fun, blow some stuff up, and take advantage of the extremely generous healthcare and tuition assistance.
It’s one weekend a month; 39 days out of 365 in a year. Half of your training time is doing normal Soldier stuff that you would do no matter what your MOS is. People don’t join the NG for a career, they join for the benefits. Have some fun, blow some stuff up, and take advantage of the extremely generous healthcare and tuition assistance.
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CW2 Jalistair B
Oh, you can also make sure that you fail out of every MOS they give you. Then you can get discharged and live an equally unsatisfied civilian life flipping burgers. That is, if fast food restaurants ever open back up.
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SGT Franklin Walker
I sent many young soldiers to fort Lee the nco are very impatient and up for retirement because they didn't make rank
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SGT Franklin Walker
Wow a warrant officer with a negative approach and lack of encouragement really dude
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My biggest question is how do you fail 92Y AIT? Ive had supply guys that couldnt tie their shoes or count to potato, but they passed AIT.
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SPC Michael Mershon
Sergeant first class I'm an old soldier from way back by MOS was Charlie 10 and none of us fail you didn't fail we didn't let the other one failed I just don't understand it. Why is the army if today kinda why is he asking can he get out of being a combat that's what you would want I would think
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You signed the form, I guarantee there's a clause that says if you fail to complete the training agreed upon, then you go needs of the Army.
Another note - you went to 92Y AIT, now going to 12B, yet your profile says you're a "Field Artillery Firefinder Radar Operator"......
Another note - you went to 92Y AIT, now going to 12B, yet your profile says you're a "Field Artillery Firefinder Radar Operator"......
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How could you fail 92Y school, I went through it at the age of 38 years old, and I didn't find it that hard to do.
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They are all combat MOSs. Just sayin. The Army fights and wins the Nation's wars. In case you missed it in the brochure.
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LTC Jason Mackay
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PVT,
Combat Engineer is an extremely cool job and sounds like just what you need: a little sun and adventure. As National Guard, you can reasonably expect that your day-to-day will be almost the same as if you were a 92Y. That said, if you failed 92Y AIT, you are likely to fail Combat Engineer course too - at which point the Army will probably separate you - unless they just decide to perpetually recycle you, which is also possible. Live a little.
P.S.
If you do make it through Combat Engineer school, try and go Sapper. It'll open up a world of other doors for you.
Combat Engineer is an extremely cool job and sounds like just what you need: a little sun and adventure. As National Guard, you can reasonably expect that your day-to-day will be almost the same as if you were a 92Y. That said, if you failed 92Y AIT, you are likely to fail Combat Engineer course too - at which point the Army will probably separate you - unless they just decide to perpetually recycle you, which is also possible. Live a little.
P.S.
If you do make it through Combat Engineer school, try and go Sapper. It'll open up a world of other doors for you.
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PVT,
Have you talked to your National Guard Liasion and your Recruiter? The Liasion is on station and will be able to help you directly, but your Recruiter can also work your issue back home as well. Both sides will eventually have to talk to resolve your issue, so the sooner you set things in motion the better.
You are correct in that it will be needs of the Army(or your state in this instance), but you may also be limited by your ASVAB Line Scores as well as if you currently possess a Security Clearance.
What also may help is if you express to both the Liasion and the Recruiter that you are willing to travel an extended distance for drill. One of the closest units to you may have been a Engineer Company, and you were probably slotted to be a Supply Clerk there. When you failed, they simply bumped you over to 12B for convenience. If such is the case, you'll sign a waiver saying you're willing to drive the xxxx miles to drill every month without compensation from your state.
Another scenario may be if you had contracted to receive a bonus. Typically states will do their best to allow you to retain the bonus, but that too will also limit the jobs you can select to keep moving forward.
Good luck.
Have you talked to your National Guard Liasion and your Recruiter? The Liasion is on station and will be able to help you directly, but your Recruiter can also work your issue back home as well. Both sides will eventually have to talk to resolve your issue, so the sooner you set things in motion the better.
You are correct in that it will be needs of the Army(or your state in this instance), but you may also be limited by your ASVAB Line Scores as well as if you currently possess a Security Clearance.
What also may help is if you express to both the Liasion and the Recruiter that you are willing to travel an extended distance for drill. One of the closest units to you may have been a Engineer Company, and you were probably slotted to be a Supply Clerk there. When you failed, they simply bumped you over to 12B for convenience. If such is the case, you'll sign a waiver saying you're willing to drive the xxxx miles to drill every month without compensation from your state.
Another scenario may be if you had contracted to receive a bonus. Typically states will do their best to allow you to retain the bonus, but that too will also limit the jobs you can select to keep moving forward.
Good luck.
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You shouldn’t have failed the AIT in the first place. I don’t believe you can just refuse to do an MOS because you signed a contract. Either suck it up or do enough to get kicked out
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SGT Justin Brothen
PFC Jeffrey Herrington need to be adaptable, I was a FO. Yet a radar operator, coist NCOIC, is what my units had me learn and do. When needed, not my jobs yet I did them.
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SGT Justin Brothen
PFC Jeffrey Herrington exactly my point you adapted, congrats on making it into a profitable venture.
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You are going to learn to blow stuff up. It's a hard job, but it's a fun job. I was once a 12B. Give it a shot.
That being said....you signed an agreement with the military. You must uphold your end of the agreement. You don't want to get kicked out but here you are talking about refusing to do that MOS. You'd get sent home as a PFC (Private Frigging Civilian) if you refuse.
That being said....you signed an agreement with the military. You must uphold your end of the agreement. You don't want to get kicked out but here you are talking about refusing to do that MOS. You'd get sent home as a PFC (Private Frigging Civilian) if you refuse.
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PFC Andrew "Tommy" M.
Considering he faild supply school , not sure I'd want him doing anything with explosives, maybe they need some cooks !
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You signed a contract for 92Y. You are in breach of that contract with your failing AIT , as a result you are now needs of the Army. So they assign you a new MOS that they need rather than you want. You could refuse to do that MOS, in which case you would be chaptered out of the NG and likely not be able to serve any branch again in the future.
Suck it up, do the training, get qualified and do your time and move on. At your re-enlistment you can always request a reclass.
Suck it up, do the training, get qualified and do your time and move on. At your re-enlistment you can always request a reclass.
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