Posted on May 30, 2020
Failed AIT , reclass to a combat mos , can I get discharged?
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I'm in the national guard and failed 92y AIT and getting reclass to combat engineer. I didnt sign up for a combat mos . What would happen if I refused to do that MOS? Would I be able to get out . I dont want to quit and know it's the needs of the army but I really dont want that mos .
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If you truely want to be in the Army I suggest you do the AIT they are offering. You can always reclass later to what you want.
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I'm glad you don't want to quit. If you believe in "service above self" then you should take the job the Army gives you and do your best at it. Besides, combat engineers get to blow things up! You also get to learn things which will help you in civilian employment. That's a great job!
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Failing AIT was your fault. Not completing contract will be your fault. You could ask for release based on YOUR FAILURE or suck it up and soldier on. As SFC Boyd stated " you were guaranteed training Not MOS".
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If I were you, I would stick it out. It's part time, has great education benefits and quite frankly you may find you like it better than being a supply clerk. Don't let the "combat" or lack of "combat" in the job title fool you. Both would have pretty good chances of being involved in a combat encounter, especially as a junior Soldier.
Let's take supply specialist job for example. In garrison or back in the drill hall you will be involved in mundane jobs such as passing out weapons, helping to issue equipment, and doing busy work for your supply sergeant. But, during a deployment, you might be part of a logistics run to battalion companies spread out in various locations and risk being hit with insurgents that want your supplies or IEDs just for the sake of taking out more Soldiers. This is very simplified, but I am just trying to illustrate that being a supply clerk may not be an safer then a combat MOS.
I was active duty in a combat engineer unit as a chemical soldier, and guess what, we also had a supply section. We pretty much went where the combat engineers went (although I was left in the command post helping out company operations).
Let's take supply specialist job for example. In garrison or back in the drill hall you will be involved in mundane jobs such as passing out weapons, helping to issue equipment, and doing busy work for your supply sergeant. But, during a deployment, you might be part of a logistics run to battalion companies spread out in various locations and risk being hit with insurgents that want your supplies or IEDs just for the sake of taking out more Soldiers. This is very simplified, but I am just trying to illustrate that being a supply clerk may not be an safer then a combat MOS.
I was active duty in a combat engineer unit as a chemical soldier, and guess what, we also had a supply section. We pretty much went where the combat engineers went (although I was left in the command post helping out company operations).
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SGT Justin Brothen
Ive met supply guys with bronze stars, like he says non combat mos doesn't mean your not out there
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SFC Carroll is 100% correct!! When you enlist MOS specific the Army guarantees you a shot at completing the AIT for that MOS. If you SUCCESSFULLY complete the AIT you're golden. If you fail out of the AIT the Army, including NG, still owns you for the duration of the contract. I am not sure what another previous poster meant by "don't show up and get kicked out" that used to translate to 1) Don't show up, 2) Get COURT-MARTIAL ED out with dD, 3) Lose any chance with a job that requires no criminal convictions, or any federal job, or any job requiring a security clearance, or any federally backed student financial aid for higher education.
I agree with another poster, welcome to reality based adulthood, suck it up, do your time, and get out.
I agree with another poster, welcome to reality based adulthood, suck it up, do your time, and get out.
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12B is a blast... LOL... seriously though, it is a great MOS. Do your time and ETS. You'll hate yourself if get kicked out, bro.
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Suck it up, or go back on your signature. Either is your choice, I'd advise not "refusing to go".
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I went the AIT in 2005 as a 92Y and loved it then got out the military for 7 years then got back in the guard two years ago and learned GCSS-Army. So if I can learn that the. It’s your fault. You signed a contract and if you don’t want the MOS they give you then let them kick you out other than that hush and learn the new skill! Good luck!
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Don't think you should be wineing about your situation here. You should of not signed the dotted line in the first place. Are you going to get out and put in for a VA disability claim. Wouldn't surprise after what I've been seeing lately. Once again not trying to be mean but the military has turned soft since I first joined.
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Should have studied harder. Sorry not trying to be mean. I just retired after 35 years and seen most everything. Never liked seeing a quitter.
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