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SFC Pierce,

I am very interested in volunteering for recruiting. I was wondering though, if the packet has to be typed or can it be hand written? Also, I've been told by a few people that I must be a SSG before going but I find it nowhere on the RTR site. My last question is, how does one get promoted in a recruiter setting if they are not already Promotable?
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SGT Johnson,

Good to see you resourcing all the social media tools! Okay first, the packet documents can be hand written or typed. Just be mindful of legibility and how hand written documents look when scanned/then printed off again. I would suggest avoiding hand written as much as possible. But either way is okay. Soldiers in the ranks E-5 to E-7 can volunteer for Recruiting Assignments. You will just have to review Time in Service and or Time in Grade standards. E-5s with 10 or more years won't be selected due to RCP considerations. Detailed Recruiters are encourage to and compete for promotions with their PMOS and points requirements like normal. There are boards held at Recruiting Battalions regularly. If a board suggests you be placed into Promotable status and you make points, then you will be promoted no different than anywhere else in the Army.

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How funny that you answered this! I just sent an email asking you the same questions! You have been and continue to be a large help, Thank you so much, SFC Pierce!
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I recently Submittied my volunteer packet and was accepted by USAREC but my Branch (MP) told me that there was no school slots available before my PCS (October 2014). Is this a real thing considering recruiting is currently a hot assignment?
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SGT Scudder,

 

Send me an email with your full name and SSN via encrypted email to [login to see] . I can then check you packet status and see if we can get communication to your branch manager regarding school slots. The last tracker I got showed available slots for schools prior to October 2014 and SMs are deleted for different reasons all the time opening slots in near term classes. So, I don't think that should be a major road block for you.

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I would actually love to do it, but I'm in an Instructor/Writer slot at the moment, so unfortunately two back to back special duty assignments are a no no... Perhaps in a few years.
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SSG Hasburn,


You could always do it and convert to 79R. Just food for thought.

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SFC,

 I have flirted with the idea of going recruiting, but my current assignment (joint) and previous were TDA units. I have been told by other NCOs that to much time in TDA unit may hinder promotion opportunities. 

However, if it doesn't I would like try to submit a packet. Also, I would like to know what are the chances that I can be slotted as a 79RL (language qualified slot)?
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SSG Cedeno,


First, let me say I can not say for certainly if going to Recruiting duty for three years after previous TDAs would hinder you. However, as long as you were filling assignments for your MOS and rated accordingly, it should not matter if they were MTOE or TDA. Now, that in mind, diversifying assigned duties and successfully taking on challenges outside you PMOS is supposed to be looked on favorably. I have yet to see with my own eyes otherwise.

In regards to language proficiency, there aren't specific slots except for a couple exceptions possibly. But, you would be entitled to FLPB still and utilized to translate documents as necessary.

Check out the RTR site for application information. http://www.usarec.army.mil/hq/recruiter/index.aspx



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Yes I have. I am going to need a special assignment. I like the idea of going recruiting after this assignment. I spent a few years as a door to door saleswoman so I think this is something I can do. Not trying to compare, It is more of the sales aspect. I have looked up the requirements such as GT score but cannot find anything. Perhaps I am searching in the wrong place. Where can I find the requirements so I can be ready? Other than ALC and my P status, what would you recommend I prepare myself with?
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SGT Gresham,


You can always take a look at my Facebook page

https://www.facebook.com/pages/III-Corps-Outreach-NCO-79R-Liaison-SFC-Pierce/ [login to see] 90507

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http://www.usarec.army.mil/hq/recruiter/index.aspx

Both have the application and FAQs for Recruiting assignment as well as the eligibility criteria.


It's good to be able to talk to many different people from different walks of life. However, the only thing you are selling is you as a Soldier. You're drive is to show other young folks how they can be successful and meet their goals in the Army. If you can do that, that's half the battle. The other half is finding those people that will give you enough facetime between their tweets and FB status updates. #SMHandLOLing


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Thank you for the links. I was able to find the answer to my question about line scores. I just PCS'ed and understand I will have to wait until I can drop a packet for recruiting. I am positive I can show people why the military life is a benefit. Especially since the military has given me or provided me the information needed to obtain everything I have. I like telling younger Soldiers about it. Heck, it excites me.
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SFC Pierce, I have been talking to several people in the past few weeks about my current job, and ones available to me. With the med board process not being started yet and still pending surgeries. I still have plenty of time to pull all of my resources together and make required rank to volunteer. My question for you would be, I know I am going to have to get a COAD. How would that effect my volunteering status, if at all? 
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SPC Kasper,


You will have to complete your PDES first. So, the Army would be able to determine your ability to remain on active duty and perform in your PMOS. Considering the COAD is an exception to policy, I do not think you'd be able to qualify for Recruiting Duty. The reason I say this is if you get a COAD it means you were found unfit for duty, but an exception was made due to one of the following: TIS which would exceed the acceptable limits for Recruiting, being in a critical skill or shortage MOS (you'd be released before transferred to Recruiting) and lastly an unfitting disability resulting from combat or terrorism. That last one would likely mean the SM has traumatic physical or emotional disabilities, neither are conducive to Recruiting Duty. However, these are my speculations.


Get through the PDES first and submit what you have. The worst that could happen is you are denied. But, if it makes it through, then well worth the effort to me. Have you spoken with SFC Conerly there at Fort Drum?

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I have not spoken to SFC Conerly as of yet. I've been quite busy with appointments. Never the less, I still need to make time to visit. In your response, you mentioned "shortage MOS". As a 12b(21b) we are over strength or at least that is how it is portrayed to me. 
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I am at Ft Bragg and i have a family member on the EFMP, that will be a problem to apply for recruiting duty? i will love to stay in NC and do my duty in Fayetteville or Spring Lake.
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SGT Diaz,


Having a family member enrolled in EFMP is not a problem. Just means the assignment selections would be restricted to areas that can support your family's needs. As far as staying in NC and specific assignments, submit your BNs of choice in priority order. You have to understand though there is only so much that can be done about assignment "preference". When it's all said and done, it comes down to where USAREC needs Recruiters and that meets your EMFP needs. Check out my "III Corps Outreach NCO" Facebook page. I have a list of FAQs that might answer some more questions you have. If not, let me know.

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I submitted my packet after branch told me they were considering me for DA selection. Completed the entire packet and submitted it as directed. I got the email from RTR (Recruit the Recruiter team) stating that they received my packet and it was processing  however got another email from branch stating I was on orders for another assignment. I'm confused because branch just told me they were going to release me for recruiting duty and then put me on orders. With that being said I talked with branch again and they are waiting on the next "recruiting mission" to determine my school date since I'm OCONUS and my DEROS is Sept of this year. I don't know what "recruiting mission" means as they weren't really specific. In a nutshell from what my 1SG told me, My current assignment is basically a filler for if I am selected, recruiter takes presence over that assignment. If the "recruiter mission comes out and they don't need me, then my current assignment is a definite. The packet wasn't a hassle but it's crazy how orders work. I guess I can't do nothing now but wait for a response from both RTR and branch on if I'm going or not.

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SGT Odum, my pleasure!


SSG Broadbent, get on it as soon as you can. Can take some time to process and I don't have connections like that lol. If I did, my butt would be in Hawaii!


SSG Johnson, speaking of the HI! Sorry to hear about your experience. I came out right when things started to change in this Command fortunately. I've heard and seen it all. What I can say is this... There are good and bad days just like anything else. As for the hostility piece, if someone is truly toxic and hostile these days, they better have a bug out bag with a second source of income. This Command is pushing hard to meet mission objectives but there is no excuse to not take care of and support our Soldiers. They listen to Soldiers with legit concerns and it does not take too much to make things change towards the positive. USAREC just weeded out much of its senior leaders thanks to ALARACT 147. So, I'd expect to see a lot more bright minded and positive leaders coming up here. Matter of fact if you meet the requirements we are really looking for NCOs who have prior recruiting duty to convert to 79R and come back out to make a difference. Just food for thought.

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SFC Pierce,

I have been thinking about going back for my 3 years, until retirement.  I am a single parent so not sure how it would work. I remember how it was with no kids. 


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SFC Johnson,  if you could read back thru this same forums about 3 months ago I posed that same concern (single mom) to SFC Pierce. He gave me some great insight. Good Luck.
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SSG Johnson,


Shoot me an email at [login to see] and I will respond back with a zip file that has a reclass brief I currently use, an application walkthrough and all pertinent/required docs. To be honest, if your financial statement and Family Care Plan are strong, you will likely be approved. Branch Managers or others may sometimes think this is a complete disqualifier to be a single parent, but the fact is it isn't. It is waivable on a case by case basis. Plus, we need more strong female NCOs out there in the recruiting force.


SSG Parker,


I shot you an email with the same mentioned zip file. Just want to make sure you got it as well.

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I went on the Recruit the Recruiter webpage a few months back, and I was told that at the present moment USAREC is not accepting any prior Recruiters. Does the statement hold any truth, and if so are there plans for it to change? I am planning on dropping my packet in March when I will have the required 12 months at current assignment. I realize that I should have converted to in 2013 when I was there.
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In am 47, SSG with 10 years active. What are the chances I can get a recruiting slot?
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SSG Craven,
Unfortunately, the age standard is 21-35 years. Waivers up to the age of 44 are only considered for SSG (P's) and SFC's.

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