Posted on Mar 14, 2014
Fort Carson announced they will stop vehicles during retreat.
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I'm not surprised this is the action they took after a Soldier made headlines for posting about hiding out because she didn't want to salute. I agree with the actions they took. What are your opinions on the matter?
Military police at Fort Carson, Colo., are stopping vehicles at on-post intersections during retreat, the post's Facebook page announced after outrage over a soldier who posted a selfie of her avoid...
Military police at Fort Carson, Colo., are stopping vehicles at on-post intersections during retreat, the post's Facebook page announced after outrage over a soldier who posted a selfie of her avoid...
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There should be no opinion in this matter...only strict adherence to the policy. It's a sad state of Army-affairs that we have to resort to this policy (if not already in place) to get Soldiers to do the right thing. I, like a few other posters wasn't aware they stopped this to begin with. I would go so far as to put those caught NOT stopping their cars on duty being the road guards that stop traffic for a month.
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My question is this. Simply why would you NOT, render the proper respect to the colors, Nation and Service. Wether NCO, Officer, or Jr enlisted,WE signed the papers to defend and protect the Constitution of the United States. It is only fitting that we as soldiers stop and PAY Respect to all those that have served and or paid the ultimate price defending this Great country. Yes it is keeping you from the family that you are ultimatly protecting in the firstplace, for a few more minutes.
This is a personel response not ATTACKING anyone when I use the term you by no mean form or fashion.
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I think this is fantastic. Too many have allowed tradition and regulations to fall to the wayside and this today is why young service members do some of the things they do. If we start enforcing the standards again as they should be, in time the tide will turn and we can return to a level of respect and credibility we can be proud of. <div><br></div><div>It starts at the top though. We need to lead from the front and perform in use manner that we want our Soldiers to perform in. My old commander constantly echoed this, don't talk about it, be about it.</div>
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SFC Anabel Cepero
SFC Roselund,
I agree! I think it's also because many have gotten complacent and stopped really enforcing the standard. This is a great idea and maybe other posts will follow suit.
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Should be happening anyways!! If your on a military instalation during retreat or reveille, regardless if your military or civilian... THE FLAG DESERVES RESPECT from ALL Americans.
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You are supposed to STOP anyways!
Not only should they stop them, they should get a ticket as well as a good "Counseling Session" with their First Sgt!
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Sadly this is the result of the Army recruiting heavily during wartime and letting pretty much anything with a heartbeat join. They couldn't find a job on the outside, or couldn't hold one and the Army said "sure you can join". Now they wear the uniform like their back on the block and when they are off duty they they act like fools.
I don't agree with being easy on these soldiers. I say Dishonorable Discharge and get rid of them. That way when they go to apply for a job or benefits that DD will be there. They shouldn't be on the same level as those that served with honor.
Now you just wait, there will be someone who fights this. Some barracks lawyer or family member that says it's unconstitutional.
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Oh and before you start blaming recruiters, I was one and unless you have done the job, don't say a thing, those that have done it know how your treated if you don't make numbers
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I was a recruiter back when the surge started in '05, so I know what you mean. The standard kept getting lower and lower just to meet mission. I was thankful for my release under the new recruiter program in '06. It seriously made me ill to see what was getting accepted into the Army, and I couldn't accept it. I'd rather roll donuts every month than put in someone I knew was going to be more paperwork for another NCO later.
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Me too 05-09. I used to get pissed when they would come in and specifically ask for a job that was indoors with AC.
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Having no experience with Fort Carson except for a TDY out to Butts AAF for HAMET training, I was unaware they weren't stopping traffic before this incident. It has always been my experience, particularly near the garrison flag pole, that traffic was stopped at Retreat. I don't think there's a place I have been stationed that it wasn't the case. Regardless, I agree with CSM Irwin that it's downright sad when soldiers can't be bothered to do the right thing.
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Why did this even become a question? Aren't all folks required to stop and pay their respects IAW regulations? If they didn't want to salute the flag and pay tribute...why did these folks even join?
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I surprised it took this long, I'm used to it. In Korea and Okinawa it's already like that.
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