Posted on Dec 1, 2016
CW4 Brian Haas
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Posted in these groups: Ba08892d David Petraeus
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1SG Al Brown
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I don't have any mercy for him. He wouldn't have any mercy for me if I did what he did. Trump needs to wait until he serves his probation time and let him earn his honor and future security clearances.
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It would be more logical for President Trump to issue a pardon.
Having said that, while GEN Petraeus is a good man, I think we would all be better served if he remain outside of government. What he did was highly questionable, and set him up to be compromised. He knew better, and did it anyway.
Not the kind of cat I want in a position of trust. More of an informal advisory role would make more sense than elevating him to a cabinet position, but I think he should play golf and give speeches.
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Capt Tom Brown
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Given the lady Senator is philosophically opposed to Gen Mattis as SOD she would probably have a stroke at the suggestion of appointing a compromised adulterer as the nation's SOS and voting to waive the 7 yr delay period to boot. Trump could of course commute/pardon his transgressions, probably not a big deal with POTUS elect's personal values, but would expect some pushback in Congress.
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Given the talk of Petraeus becoming Secretary of State, and the fact that he is still on probation, can't Trump just commute his sentence?
SPC Erich Guenther
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He needs a Congressional Waiver as well because he was a four Star General so recently. General Mattis is in the same basket, needs a Congressional Waiver. Not sure why that restriction is on Secretary of State vs CIA but I suspect it has to do with line of succession to the Presidency.
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CW4 Brian Haas
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Actually, it is done that way to keep the military from being run by military, as odd as that sounds. There is quite a distinction between civilian leadership and military leadership. So by having the time built into the system, you won't get the overly "military mind" running the military, therefore being able to look at the overall world strategic picture. Make sense? I think I rambled now.
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SPC Erich Guenther
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CW4 Brian Haas - It makes sense.
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CW4 Brian Haas - There is that, and there is the fact that a senior military officer who just got out of the military and is now in a senior civilian government position can have undue influence over the military. It is a layer of protection designed to prevent the possibility of a military coup.
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MSgt James Mullis
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He can also give him a complete pardon and wipe his record clean.
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CAPT Kevin B.
CAPT Kevin B.
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Although the President can pardon, I don't recall the power to expunge which is an action by a court. The first is forgiveness and the second is to forget legally. In the first case the record stands, in the second, it's sealed. The expungement thing is what the teens go for so they can say they never been convicted on their job application. Happens all the time is is usually an automatic for stuff committed before 18 unless a capital conviction. You have to apply for it with the court though.
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