Posted on Mar 27, 2014
SPC Christopher Smith
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I know no one is expecting to make it big financially in the military, but how much would it effect the economy as a whole post drawdown, if the Government matched 5% of total annual contributions per person? This is not a real program, just a personal social experiment to understand how people view Federal spending.
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I would be ecstatic to have TSP matching.  I have heard that DoD civilians get some form of contribution matching for their TSP.  I have a feeling that we would have a much higher percentage of Soldiers putting money away for retirement if this were the case!  If they do end up changing the retirement system and convert to a 401k style program, I hope that they implement something like this. 
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Youth and from what I experienced there was very little commentary by leadership.   I had to find out about the VAT from base finance once I heard they would pay that back or most of it anyway.
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I don't think the problem is that Soldiers don't see the importance of saving for the future, even at 1%.  I see the problem as being that so many Soldiers live from paycheck to paycheck, and survive on Ramen noodle soup the last few days leading up to payday.  So, when they are in this situation, they aren't worried about saving for the future.

 

I think contribution matching will help encourage them to start saving.  It will basically be like getting free money, so it would be stupid not to.  Even if they are living paycheck to paycheck, I think many will have some more motivation to figure out how to better budget their finances.

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They do. I was a Civ with the AF.
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Matching TSP for those not planning to retire is a great idea. It is a tangible benefit for those who are not pursuing the military as a career; however, there is not one retirement benefit that beats the military pension. Immediate payout of pension plans is worth way more than 5-10%. While there is a benefit of civilian life, I am a firm believer that the military's promotion, salary, & benefit package + 20 years is more advantageous than a 100K plus salary annually. Experience, Education, & Supervisory duties evaluated for all commissioned and noncommissioned the package is hands down better. I do argue that the one thing that we don't get paid for is our hardship adequately that no civilian career has our burden; however, ultimately the Military is a profession of civic duty that is not comparable to civilians.
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If the gov matched I would donate the match every month. I've heard rumblings about some changes to retirement and benefits, and this would be a great place to start, to provide a tangible opportunity and benefit for soldiers that don't stay the whole 20.
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SPC Christopher Smith
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The civilian government workers out number us, I believe, and get paid better, but they are getting matched retirements and we are not? I call a foul.
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SPC David Wyckoff
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Civilian TSP is matched penny for penny for the first 1% of base pay. Then the government matches .25 on the dollar for the next 4%. They call it matching for up to 5% but its a shell game. Usually works out, for me anyway, to about $500 to $600 a year that the gov puts in my TSP. Once you are vested then all government matching funds are yours to keep. I believe vesting is at three years for civilians.


I thought there was a soldier's TSP program. My daughter contributed to it when she was in. I don't know if her contributions were matched or not. If you guys aren't getting matched then, I agree SPC Smith, that is a foul.

Edit: Civilian TSP is on top of FERS, which is our federal retirement fund. We contribute to it, but if I remember right its a small percentage compared to what the government puts in each month. Also the employee can take a loan out against their vested funds in the civilian TSP and pay it back with a minimal interest rate.

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SPC Christopher Smith
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SPC Wyckoff, SM do not get TSP matched.
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SPC David Wyckoff
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Well it should be. There is no reason on God's green earth that the DoD can't budget a few hundred dollars for the SM that wants to put some aside for their old age. Not all SMs will do it so it wouldn't even be needed for everyone.
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