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Check out this story, PFC Justin DuBois. Not exactly a happy ending for an Army lieutenant who deserted to join the Foreign Legion. I guess it worked out for him personally (no suicide), but it's a bit of a bizarre story:
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/16/us/a-deserter-who-chased-conflict-is-jailed-for-shirking-duty.html?_r=0
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/16/us/a-deserter-who-chased-conflict-is-jailed-for-shirking-duty.html?_r=0
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LTC Yinon Weiss
That's an amazing story. My favorite quote... it sounds like something from the Duffel Blog:
“Some people hate to be cold or wet, but I thrived on it,” he said. “It was almost like a drug, having that challenge and focus made the depression go away.”
After graduating from West Point, he was put in charge of a medical platoon in the 10th Mountain Division’s First Brigade Combat Team at Fort Drum, where his duties consisted mainly of updating records and attending meetings.
“Some people hate to be cold or wet, but I thrived on it,” he said. “It was almost like a drug, having that challenge and focus made the depression go away.”
After graduating from West Point, he was put in charge of a medical platoon in the 10th Mountain Division’s First Brigade Combat Team at Fort Drum, where his duties consisted mainly of updating records and attending meetings.
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There is a book you can get on Amazon, its written by an American who was in the Legion. Its an interesting read. And it is written from the perspective of a "what you need to know" as opposed to a "how to" guide for the FFL.
It was a good book, cleared up a lot of the rumors of the Legion and explains what you get from service in the Legion. I'd recommend it for anyone who is considering it or wanted to know what it was like.
Also anyone serving with the Legion would have their reasons for going that route, maybe they have a condition that would preclude them from service in the US Armed Forces or a criminal record or a multitude of reasons. A few years ago I was in Israel and met some former American service members that were serving in the IDF. So is there much difference?
It was a good book, cleared up a lot of the rumors of the Legion and explains what you get from service in the Legion. I'd recommend it for anyone who is considering it or wanted to know what it was like.
Also anyone serving with the Legion would have their reasons for going that route, maybe they have a condition that would preclude them from service in the US Armed Forces or a criminal record or a multitude of reasons. A few years ago I was in Israel and met some former American service members that were serving in the IDF. So is there much difference?
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LTC Paul Labrador
Not really....as long as Israel and France remain allies. If you are in uniform with either when they engage in conflict with the US, you can be tried for treason.
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LTC Jason Mackay
Legion of the Lost by Jaime Salazar is an interesting read. Electrical Engineer in a six figure internship with Seimens electronics, chucks it all for a life in the legion. Ends up not being what he planned.
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I know one guy who was in the Marines and then joined the FFL when he ETS because the Marines were not hard core enough for him.
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Cpl Charles Donohoe
I met that guy before. He ate my grenade when we ran out of MREs. We used the diamond he shot out to buy a plane ticket out of hell and then flew to Mohammads house and then took his 72 daughters on steak dinner dates. I called some of them back but he never called a single one of them again.
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PFC Justin DuBois, I did not consider the French Foreign Legion. I do know that it would complicate things with a person's security clearance. Not to say that one couldn't get a clearance after being in the FFL, but it would certainly complicate things.
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They've a fantastic reputation for desertions; an indication of morale, quality of soldiers, or both. I'd only do it if this guy could be my battle buddy.
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I’ve never considered it, but I have done some reading on it on the web out of boredom. It’s not like it used to be. They will still give you a new name, but they no longer take criminals trying to escape justice. If you don’t speak French then tough crap. It’s total emersion. You learn it as you go. I think you have to serve for something like 12 years before you’re allowed to marry and live outside the barracks. After you serve long enough to retire you are given the option to become a French citizen. It does sound like a tough life.
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As long as you don't have any existing obligations (ie. military contracts) or anchors (ie. a family), then I don't personally see an issue. From what I've come to understand it's essentially a government funded merc force that they send to do things they don't want to send French soldiers to do. They've fought in most of the major conflicts on the world stage and then some.
Like others have stated, as long as France remains an ally and doesn't become an advesary, then no harm, no foul.
Like others have stated, as long as France remains an ally and doesn't become an advesary, then no harm, no foul.
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SSG Timothy McCoy
As for a government funded merc force that is kind of what the Gurkhas are all about with the British Forces.
The Gurkha soldiers are some the fiercest, incredible raw, and humble soldiers I have had the pleasure of training with, what little I have dealt with.
The Gurkha soldiers are some the fiercest, incredible raw, and humble soldiers I have had the pleasure of training with, what little I have dealt with.
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Thought about it in the sense of wonder what it would be like, and if I'd like it? Absolutely. Thought about it in the sense of taking steps to become a Legionaire? Nope. Have a wife and kids to take care of, and a life I don't have any reason to leave. I wouldn't consider it traitorous, as the French have been our allies over the course of our history, and the FFL is presently being used to establish security in parts of the world that need it.
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Well the way i look at it is im an American why do i want to fight under a different flag. I know Back before the US got involved in WW2 we had guys go and Fight with England. But i look at that differently then fighting with French Foreign Legion. I guess it is because i dont really understand what they actually do and what they stand for.
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I’ve read many Legion memoirs. It’s a very hard, very austere life. There’s no other military force like it—people from over 140 countries have served. Loyalty to the Legion is paramount. Leigio Patrie Nostra—The Legion is Our Homeland.
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