Posted on Dec 1, 2016
Has anyone ever been in a screaming match or any altercation with their superiors?
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Shockingly, no. However...while on deployment to the med, a buddy of mine got into a fight with some navy dudes from the ship we were on, and absolutely destroyed them. All 03 Marines like to fight, this guy took it three steps beyond that. The next day my buddy was standing tall in front of the ship's Captain and a few of his officers in some kind of Captain's mast. No one from the Corps's side of the house was made aware of it until after things had already gotten started. Our platoon Sgt went absolutely ballistic! He walked into the meeting, interrupted the brass, dismissed my buddy, and started ripping into the room full of officers as my buddy was leaving. The rest of the float went off without any blowback, nothing happened to my buddy, and our platoon Sgt got orders to the drill field once we got back (the drill field is not considered a punishment by any means in the Marine Corps). Best platoon sgt I ever had. He was that rare combination of Marine that was experienced, knew his shit both tactically and administratively, and had the balls to do what was right regardless of who he was talking to or if his career was on the line. He taught us rule number 1 of leadership...Take care of your people, and your people will take care of you. Don't take care of your people, and your people will still "take care of you". Wherever this day finds you Gunny Watkins, SF.
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Yes. I was an SP4, drove jeep for the 1st SGT. We had a new LT who was soft spoken and didn't really give orders, more like suggestions. The uppers knew they had to get him up to speed quickly, so the CO and 1st SGT gave me word for word how to get into an argument with him to force his hand to give a direct order. The shouting match went on for longer than any of us expected until he finally said "Do it, that's an order". I said "yes, sir". He was flabbergasted and immediately knew he had been set up, I had violated no rules and gave in when he actually took charge. The CO and 1st SGT were watching the whole time and giving me cues to make sure I didn't push it too far. We all had a good laugh afterwards and he became a great officer.
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It sounds like a really stupid millennial idea, there's NO scenerio in which it ends well for the crybaby. Suck it up and drive on.
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Alright 1972 Vietnam. SAR DevilDoc. I just cam off off a 96 hour op. Covered in gore only God knows what else, heading to showers first. Stopped by a spit and polish Ensign in whites. He proceeded to dress me down and all I could day was yes sir. Soon there was an audience, yup just great. To my delight he pushed me twice in my chest and I hit back 2x and then took a shower. Went to Mast got thrown out 1st day.
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How about a fabricated reltionship with a peer made up by "superiors" resulting in a breach of contract or illegal separation (take your pick). Said "relationship" was refuted by no less than 7 eyewitness statements through the entirety of the course.
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Many. How I dealt with it was illegal, but very efficient. They backed down very quickly and were hopeful that they wouldn't meet harsher consequences... Very quick, quiet and final.
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You did the right thing to go through your chain of command and they will do the right thing by you if they understand how to take care of their people. I was both an NCO and eventually a commissioned officer and one of the foundational principles we were taught in any leadership training was to take care of your troops. If they had pay, health or family problems, they couldn’t give their full attention to our mission, so I always endeavored to make sure I was as good and caring a steward is the personal that were placed in my care as I could be.
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I confronted the loser after we are out and years later when are paths crossed. I won argument of course.
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I have actually gotten in fist fights and shouting matches with my leaders before. One leader pulled a pistol on me during an NCOER counseling session. It must not have hurt my career, since I retired as a MSG/E8.
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