Posted on Nov 23, 2015
Has anyone ever started a JROTC program in one of their area high schools? Any lessons learned to share? ?
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Sir,
Needless to say, I have not been in the Army long enough to reach the point where I'd be starting JROTC groups, but I do have some experience from the cadet side of things that may give some idea.
1. Seek other schools to integrate or cross-train with. One of the other local high schools in my neighborhood refused to do this, while another school actively invited us to cross-train. This resulted in camaraderie between schools, lessons in communication and interpersonal tact, and others. Additionally, the local college also sought to bring the cadets in to classes and training, which was a great benefit for those thinking about pursuing a career.
2. As cadets, we wanted to be engaged in local events. Tour museums, volunteer at various Veteran's associations or fundraisers, color guard at sporting events and etc.
3. Obstacles that I saw that were encountered were mainly due to what I mentioned above: no intent to integrate with other schools or institutions, even the host school itself. Getting involved with the faculty and seeking ways to contribute seems to be beneficial.
I hope this is somewhat helpful, sir. Again, this is just what I observed from the student perspective, from what seems like forever ago!
Needless to say, I have not been in the Army long enough to reach the point where I'd be starting JROTC groups, but I do have some experience from the cadet side of things that may give some idea.
1. Seek other schools to integrate or cross-train with. One of the other local high schools in my neighborhood refused to do this, while another school actively invited us to cross-train. This resulted in camaraderie between schools, lessons in communication and interpersonal tact, and others. Additionally, the local college also sought to bring the cadets in to classes and training, which was a great benefit for those thinking about pursuing a career.
2. As cadets, we wanted to be engaged in local events. Tour museums, volunteer at various Veteran's associations or fundraisers, color guard at sporting events and etc.
3. Obstacles that I saw that were encountered were mainly due to what I mentioned above: no intent to integrate with other schools or institutions, even the host school itself. Getting involved with the faculty and seeking ways to contribute seems to be beneficial.
I hope this is somewhat helpful, sir. Again, this is just what I observed from the student perspective, from what seems like forever ago!
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MAJ David Wallace
1LT Ian Sparks, I greatly appreciate your perspective as a former cadet. Your comments track well with what I've been finding out on my own. I wish you all the best in your career! !
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In case you have not seen it, here is the official requirements. You need the school district to buy off on it, because it costs them money. The other hitch is 100 drilling cadets to keep it alive. http://www.usarmyjrotc.com/jrotc-program/establish-jrotc-program
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I may only be eighteen months into my army career but I did just send three years as an AFJROTC cadet. The first thing you need to know about starting a program is that you will attract two types people. The first are highly motivated young men who want the guys they see in the movies i.e. a sf navy seal ranger pj, and yearn to see combat. Give them real rank structure and authority and make them do more push ups than paperwork because they will reward you with a successful corps and becoming future leaders. The other type of cadets are lazy students looking for an easy A or to get out of gym. They will do nothing but drag you down.
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MAJ David Wallace
Very insightful, PV2 Arthur! You'll go far in the Army! I wish you the best as you start your military career!!
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One of my old comrades from AD in Germany is a retired 1SG and is heavily involved in JROTC. Reach out to 1SG Kevin Moore on RP.
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MAJ David Wallace
Will do, MSG James! Thanks for the heads up!! Off topic a little, but where were you in Germany??
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MAJ David Wallace - Nuremberg (W.O. Darby Kaserne) as a duty station. I was all over Bavaria, with trips to Stuttgart, Frankfurt, Munich, Heidelberg, etc.
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I haven't started one but I am in one now that basically needed to be started from grass roots as both the SAI and myself were new to the school. I'm sure you're seeking answers in regards to how to go about getting the basics off the ground but after getting all your initial training done on the GPC, Supply Inventory/Hand Receipt issues then your main focus should always be on the kids.
Inventory everything, network with other JROTC Instructors/SAI"s and their programs in other schools so that you can get tips, borrow or barter if need be to support your Cadets and be willing to do the same with those schools/SAI's-AI's.
Best wishes to you and your new school be prepared to hear the unexpected from the kids because they will surprise you with things going on in their lives at home and at the school. Always make yourself available to them to be there as a Problem Solver or at least an ear to hear them out, be patient always.
For some of these kids we (Soldiers) are the only positive influences they see all day, continue to live your Army Values and Soldier's Creed and let them know that they should always live their Cadet Creed and Army Values 24-7/365 whether you are watching or not.
God bless you Sir, I wish you, your Sergeant and your Cadets nothing but the best.
Inventory everything, network with other JROTC Instructors/SAI"s and their programs in other schools so that you can get tips, borrow or barter if need be to support your Cadets and be willing to do the same with those schools/SAI's-AI's.
Best wishes to you and your new school be prepared to hear the unexpected from the kids because they will surprise you with things going on in their lives at home and at the school. Always make yourself available to them to be there as a Problem Solver or at least an ear to hear them out, be patient always.
For some of these kids we (Soldiers) are the only positive influences they see all day, continue to live your Army Values and Soldier's Creed and let them know that they should always live their Cadet Creed and Army Values 24-7/365 whether you are watching or not.
God bless you Sir, I wish you, your Sergeant and your Cadets nothing but the best.
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MAJ David Wallace
SFC Ewing, you are spot on! I appreciate your information and will take it to heart. In my current job as a police officer, I've had contact with so many good kids that lack guidance or support in their lives. I'd like to be in a position to help them make positive choices in life and keep away from the evil influences out there that destroy so many of them. Thanks for being a mentor and good shepherd to the young people around you! Hooah!
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I am working with the Oakland Military Institute and the California Cadet Corps program (and have supported many JROTC activities too.) I have worked with many cadets in these programs that have a lot of issues; and have been amazed at how these kind of programs help them overcome adversity.
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Establish rules of discipline and how to carry them out, because the favorite push ups have become cruel and unusual punishment when done too much. So make sure that you read the whole school district regulations and keep an eye on your cadets.
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CPT Pedro Meza
MAJ David Wallace - "Impressionable yutes" that will get you fired, that is what happen in my area, some fool made other cadets do push ups until some vomited so guess who lost their job.
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CPT Pedro Meza
MAJ David Wallace -You make your good luck by staying vigil over your cadets, because they will do crazy things that will get you in trouble; just think back to what you did or planned to do when you were that age.
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it is very difficult to start a JROTC unt. Many schools are on waiting lists. California has another school-based alternative, the California Cadet Corps (http://www.cadet.org) run by the Cal National Guard Youth Programs directorate. This program dates back to 1911 (5 years older than JROTC) has had it ups and downs, but is doing very well now. I just got back from the summer program which includes basic cadet training, and advanced to include marksmanship, survival (the 2 adults in charge of this group are 2 brothers, a retired USAF pilot and a former SEAL!) mountaineering, law enforcement, medical, cyber and drill instructor schools They can be more flexible--they would apply through the NG Youth Programs, There is no minimum cadet enrollment numbers. Instructors (called commandants) can teach it as a class or an after-school program. Other adults can volunteer as assistant commandants or on state or brigade sfaff members. See website for more information. I have recently started volunteering for it.
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I've done some research since I'm retiring in 9 months. First, the criteria to is less than Army ROTC. 2nd. You must be retired from the active army or have over 20 years national guard or reserve. Go online & look at the job packet.
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MAJ David Wallace
Yes sir. I've got over 22 years with combined active and reserve time. Now also acoutin out potential schools that will support a program. Best of luck to you as you prepare for retirement!
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LTC (Join to see)
in 2007, the law was changed to allow retired reservists to teach it which is what I am. (before you could only be retired active) However, shortly after came the Great Recession; and many hiring freezes! Fortunately I kept my job as a regular classroom teacher. By the time that thawed out I became to old be be seriously considered as an instructor. Now I'm retired as a teacher.
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