Posted on Aug 3, 2017
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SSG Robert Perrotto
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Yep. Happens quite frequently - especially CoR's. Old NCO PCS'ed, You come in, and boom - your are writing NCOER's for 2 team leaders, or 3 squad leaders. You have absolutely no idea what they have done, or if they even deserve the excellents you have to put in.

I cannot in good conscious penalize them for what their prior leader failed to do.
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This is how and why the "write your own NCOER" method came to happen, and I had to use that method several times myself
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prior to my medical retirement - like 5 weeks prior, my 1SG told me to write my NCOER and Write an award - I declined both, in writing. 2 weeks prior, I was informed that the CSM wanted an NCOER and that I had to write one - needless to say I did not write one. It was not needed, I declined in writing, and I retired.
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SSG(P) Casualty Operations Ncoic
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Yup. When leadership fails and a NCO who rates one or more Soldiers leaves the unit without doing Change of Rater NCOERs for his NCOs, someone has to write those evals. Should it happen? Nope. But it does and it is not right. The best you can do if you find yourself in this position is to talk to other NCOs who know the rated NCO and are familiar with his/her character, work ethic, work product, etc.
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This used to happen a lot in the old system... at least on the reserve side. You get situations where the assigned rater did not have much contact with the rated Soldier during the period and another soldier covered down.

It's not supposed to happen as much anymore if the system is used correctly. You have to enter the rating chain to start the support form that is meant to be used by that same rater when the NCOER is actually done
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It is still alive and well in the 82nd. In general though, just as I predicted, despite the drawbacks the new system was supposed to eradicate, people still find ways around the safeguards to ensure the "old ways" stay around.
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