Posted on Jul 11, 2016
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I recently passed the board and am hurting for promotion points. I am primarily missing civilian education. I will not be able to take any college courses because I am going to BLC and Airborne very soon before I PCS in March. I am curious about CLEP tests though. I have went to my Education Center but they were not as helpful as I had hoped. Anyone have any experiences with CLEP tests?
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Capt Daniel Goodman
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http://www.acenet.edu/news-room/Pages/Military-Guide-Online.aspx

I think that last one was wrong, this was what I'd meant to send....
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Capt Daniel Goodman
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https://bookstore.acenet.edu/

Look at this also, ACE isretty much definitive as to what's allowed for college credit, incl in the svcs, from what I'd read.
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Capt Daniel Goodman
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_College_of_the_Air_Force

This is only the Wikipedia page, just look up CCAF using Google, you'll see the real site, I'm sure.
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Capt Daniel Goodman
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So, here's the thing, you can ask about the GRE subj tests, though, as I said, they can be rough, CLEPs and DANTES exams, I never did, though I gather they have fewer credits per exam, which is why obv GRE subj tests can be so rough, 30 credits is a fair number, so they have to be strict, obv, as t po min raw score needed, that's all I'm saying. I did use them that way, though, so you might care to ask about them. I'll try to send links now, then add more, if possible, many thanks.
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Capt Daniel Goodman
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OK, moving on: UoPeople has Assoc and Bach in bus admin, comp sci (CS), and health sci, as well as an MBA. As I said, they're not a panacea, however, being nearly free, as I've gathered, I've wondered how the svcs, VA, or industry might view their DETC accred, in terms of legitimacy, I just thought being free, what's to lose by asking, you know? I don't think they allow transfers, though, so you'd have to do their whole program, which is prob for accred reasons, I'd expect. Now as to how I got credtis by exam, there's the grad record exam or GRE, both the genl and subj tests. The genl GRE test, I "think", might be acceptable for GED, though thats obv not your circumstance, I'm uncertain, though I seem to recall something about that. The subject tests for GRE, however, have had credits given for them, college level, though from which group tends to vary. RED/RCD used to give 30 pass fail credits, 15 Assoc level, 15 Bach level, I know, I got them, by doing the GRE subj tests in engrg, physics, and math. The engrg and math ones, I was fairly well prepared for, the physics one was rough, I needed three tries to get an adequate raw score. One needed a min raw score, not a min percentile, though excelsior might not use them the same way, you'd need to ask to be sure. Now, Edison college, I think, in NJ, and oak tree college, in CT, I believe, did similar things, though if read that Edison gave 24 pass/fail credits, understand the GRE subj test credits were pass/fail, with no grade. Also, I did the 2nd Bach math using an RED/RCD rule they had about a 2nd Bach, where if one got 30 credits in a new major, 90 credits of a STD 120 credit min Bach from before, could be applied twd the new 2nd Bach. Also, the RED/RCD grades were odd, in that they had n po fractional grading. Thus, a C+ became a C, rounding up, yet a B+ became a B, rounding down, I never understood their rationale, yet that was how NYS let them do it, I don't know how excelsior does it, I just know the svcs have accepted them for a long time, they even had a special Navy program for the nuclear enlisted program, as so many Navy nuc enlisted grads asked them for credit, I'd read they did a special eval on that program, which I'd applied for, before going USAF, ultimately, I'd also been army ROTC before that, as well, though I went USAF instead. I'll send this, then try to add more, many thanks.
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SFC Andrew Miller
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The education center will have practice tests for each of the CLEP and DSST exams. Take a few practice ones here and there as you can. If you score at least 80 on it, take the actual one. If you get 70-80 spend some time with the study guide, then take it. Less than 70, move on to the next one. They actual exams are scored differently than a percentile, but those are good indicators. I passed 66 credits worth during my first 10 years in. Get started on it and good luck.
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While I don't have experience with them in the military sense I have taken them before on a military base. One important thing is if you intend to use them with a college make sure that that college accepts them. Some colleges don't accept them and it can mess with planning.
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Capt Daniel Goodman
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Not CLEP, however, other exams for credits, yeah, though immnotmentirepymcertainnofnyour circumstances given your description, as to whether what I did might be of use to you. However, having said that, I'll try to elaborate somewhat. I obv don't know how much college you've done, however, you might, if you haven't already, ask about community college of the air force, or CCAF, if it hasn't already been mentioned to you. I've known theyre intended to help enlisted, not merely USAF, but other svcs also, get their Assoc based at least to whatever extent it's allowed, on prior enlisted training. My only point is, if you haven't looked at it, you have nothing to lose by trying, I thought, you know? Now, also, there's also DANTES, though I know little about who it works. Also, look at http://www.uopeople.edu, which charges no tuition as it's a nonprofit, just admin and exam fees. The thing is, though, they just got DETC accred, which is not the same as regional accred, which is the typically accepted norm of accreditation. I know DETC, which used to be NHSC, is approved as an accrediting body to some extent, however, truthfully, while I've heard and read good things about UoPople, I don't know if DETC is sufficient for the svcs, VA, or industry. That being said, look also at http://www.excelsior.edu, which I got a 2nd Bach from in math yrs ago, I'll explain how. They're extremely SVC friendly, used to be part of NYS govt, then privatized, they used to be called regents college/educ degrees (RCD/RED). A friend of mine got his Bach math from them by transferring in credits from three other schools into what they termed their credit bank, though I think they've changed how they do it, since they privatized. Excelsior is the NYS motto, hence their new name. My friend used his Bach math to go to one of the OCS programs, that I know for certain, so, given that excelsior has a toll free phone, you've got nothing to lose by trying. This tablet is temperamental, so I'll send this, then try to send more, I don't want to lose what I've already typed, one moment, thanks.
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SSgt Christopher Orlowski
SSgt Christopher Orlowski
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I have 30+ credits I received when I took a series of them when I was in the service. Like they said it is up to the institution you are going to apply to see if they will all apply. Most institutions will factor in the credits you get from your military training and then CLEP, DANTES, ETC.. tests and then give you what you will need for your Degree completion. You may not get credit for all the CLEP's since most institutions require a certain number of credits to be completed at the institution and that is usually about half. In my case in the BS degree I am going for now, I had 104 credits but I could only bring in 68, the rest I have to complete at the institution I am at now.

CLEP test are one of the greatest educational benefits you can get while in the service. They were free while I was in and I would go frequently to take the tests and they save you a lot of money when going for a degree. My 3 credit course is costing me $1055.00 a class, so the CLEP saving add up fast.
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Capt Daniel Goodman
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I follow many thanks.
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Each test has its own credit hours assigned to it depending on what you score on it. I took the Spanish CLEP test and received 12 semester hours for a three hour test.
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SPC Karen Ramsey
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I have, they are pretty easy
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