Posted on May 26, 2016
Has anyone reclassed to 35L, 38B, or 31D? What was the transition like? How did you know it was time to reclass?
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The transition to 31D is big. It's a completely different world than the regular Army. It's a lot of work but definitely worth it. Go to http://www.cid.army.mil and the prerequisites are on there. If you want further info, let me know.
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I know it s been a while, but I am currently active duty as 11b looking to transit to 31d. I will be attending blc in a month and currently working on a ts. How can I better prepare myself to meet the standards of 31d?
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The best thing you can do to prepare is to review the prerequisites and do the research to ensure you can meet them or have the time to achieve them. For example if you dont have enough collage credits make sure you can obtain them in enough time before you get promoted to SSG, because once you make SSG you only have one year to get accepted before you are disqualified.
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I can tell you pretty much anything you want to know about 38B.
What would you like to know?
What would you like to know?
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SGT(P) (Join to see)
What are the job responsibilities? How is the training? How long is the initial commitment after obtaining the MOS? What additional schooling opportunities are available?
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SGT(P) (Join to see) - The job varies a lot by mission. In a nutshell, you will be expected to be a cultural expert on your area of operations, informing the commander about cultural issues that affect operations and once missions are underway, interfacing directly with the civilian population on matters of mutual concern. This is very generic, mind you. The actual job for me has been vey different each time I have deployed. Everything from Special Operations support to CI to disaster response to capabilities building. Ask me more if you want more detail.
The training is fairly rigorous, conducted by the JFK Special Warfare Center in Ft Bragg. There is a fairly high fail rate due to the cerebral portions and sometimes the physical piece. Most that bolo do so in the lanes portion of training out at Camp McCall. It is physically demanding, but not too bad if you prepare.
Once the CAQC course is done, you'll go to Airborne School (if you haven't yet) and go to DLI for a language course.
Once you're qualified, nearly every school the Army offers is available. You'll be encouraged to go to as many of them as you can to broaden your capabilities.
It is a good job, with a lot of potential for advancement and big bonuses for reenlistment. It is not for everybody, though. It chews up officers in particular. The OPTEMPO is very high.
The training is fairly rigorous, conducted by the JFK Special Warfare Center in Ft Bragg. There is a fairly high fail rate due to the cerebral portions and sometimes the physical piece. Most that bolo do so in the lanes portion of training out at Camp McCall. It is physically demanding, but not too bad if you prepare.
Once the CAQC course is done, you'll go to Airborne School (if you haven't yet) and go to DLI for a language course.
Once you're qualified, nearly every school the Army offers is available. You'll be encouraged to go to as many of them as you can to broaden your capabilities.
It is a good job, with a lot of potential for advancement and big bonuses for reenlistment. It is not for everybody, though. It chews up officers in particular. The OPTEMPO is very high.
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SGT (Join to see) - I'll give you a nugget, as they generally try to keep their training and methods under wraps.
Be aware of misdirection. Nearly every training engagement you'll do will have one or more of them. Best way to successfully manage them is to have a good engagement plan with a secondary person from your team to keep the inevitable distraction occupied.
Don't close a meeting without achieving or at least addressing your objectives.
There will be SF dudes out there to mess with you and keep you on your toes tactically. Be prepared to bug out and secure your "civilian" counterparts when contact happens.
Good luck. Message me if you have specific questions I can answer without selling the farm.
Be aware of misdirection. Nearly every training engagement you'll do will have one or more of them. Best way to successfully manage them is to have a good engagement plan with a secondary person from your team to keep the inevitable distraction occupied.
Don't close a meeting without achieving or at least addressing your objectives.
There will be SF dudes out there to mess with you and keep you on your toes tactically. Be prepared to bug out and secure your "civilian" counterparts when contact happens.
Good luck. Message me if you have specific questions I can answer without selling the farm.
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SGT Raymond Those three MOS's have great opportunities and you are right where you can decide what you want to do before it's too late. I have friends both in 35L and 38B field and a few that went the 31D route. Let me know what questions you have and I will answer them as clear as possible
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SGT(P) (Join to see)
What does a 35L do? How is the training? What additional schooling/training opportunities?
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SGT(P) (Join to see) - SGT Johnson the school is in Fort Huachuca which will last for about 4-5 months. I was a prior 35M but I am sure there are 35L's here that can give you more detail but I know you can be stationed anywhere in the world ranging from Tactical Units and Field offices
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35L's have multiple jobs. If you are assigned to a Field Office, you will likely be primarily giving TARP briefings and participating in CI investigations (as a co-case or case agent). These investigations can be highly sensitive and usually involve a lot of people/systems. Such things that Army CI Agents investigate include potential acts of espionage, support to international terrorism, foreign cyber intrusions, potential foreign IO collection, and other potential acts/instances of insider threats. You may even be tasked to assist in investigative/defensive source operations. In a tactical setting, you may be doing investigations as well but also may be tasked to conduct MCC/CI Source Operations. Highly specialized CI units also do things such as Technical Surveillance Counter-Measures (TSCM), CI Cyber, and offensive CI operations--which are things you may be able to participate in later in your career with additional training and/or experience. Additionally, giving threat briefings, conducting CI analysis/estimates/products, and participating in CI liaison with other intel and law enforcement personnel is regular part of a CI Agent's job. Hope this helps.
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I retired in 2015 as a CID Agent. I'd be happy to answer any questions you may have.
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SFC William Reese
It can be. Most of the civilian Special Agents have years of experience. As of my retirement date the only civilian Agents hired by CID were sexual assault investigators or worked for our fraud division. It's not impossible, but its certainly easier to move to CID if you are already enlisted or have a degree and enlist directly for the CID program.
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I am currently in the reserves. I already hold a bachelors degree, but I am currently working with a recruiter to switch over to active duty so that I am able to go CID. Is this something that you have heard of or seen anyone do before? I am already an E5. Hopefully they won't take my rank when I try to go active, but is being 31B a requirement before joining CID?
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I can't agree more with the comments in this thread. As a former instructor of 35L CISAC and CIOC, best advice I can give you is to listen to the instructors. We know what we're doing....listen, take notes, and be loose! Don't stress! This course is hard; however, you will do just fine. Work on your writing and briefing skills.
If get the new 35L CTT regs...Me and my team wrote that novel....There hasn't been one since we were 97Bs.
If get the new 35L CTT regs...Me and my team wrote that novel....There hasn't been one since we were 97Bs.
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First thing you should ask yourself is why you want to..... If it's for all of the cool guy stuff... Don't do it. You will not do good and be forced out.
What is the mission of the 38's? How much do you really know? How many are really happy? Will you be? They work their ass off, or should be anyway. It's not a job for everyone. Can we say selection and assessment?
I might sound like a jerk but...I was one before medical retirement from an injury caused by one of my own battle buddies. How good is your language? Do you talk like a thug now? You will never make it if you do. Once your in, you will see the dirty side of politics and so much era and clear examples of wrong that is justified by gray.
Soul search before you make the plunge. For the record, I absolutely loved what I did, loved what I was supposed to do (mission mind set) and for the most part, loved my brothers in arms. I couldn't trust a single one of them with anything personal or secret as it will be used as leverage against you but still loved what I did.
To answer your ... When are you ready? When you can consistently score 270 or better on or test and after you researched the job. Only you will know when the best time is.
What is the mission of the 38's? How much do you really know? How many are really happy? Will you be? They work their ass off, or should be anyway. It's not a job for everyone. Can we say selection and assessment?
I might sound like a jerk but...I was one before medical retirement from an injury caused by one of my own battle buddies. How good is your language? Do you talk like a thug now? You will never make it if you do. Once your in, you will see the dirty side of politics and so much era and clear examples of wrong that is justified by gray.
Soul search before you make the plunge. For the record, I absolutely loved what I did, loved what I was supposed to do (mission mind set) and for the most part, loved my brothers in arms. I couldn't trust a single one of them with anything personal or secret as it will be used as leverage against you but still loved what I did.
To answer your ... When are you ready? When you can consistently score 270 or better on or test and after you researched the job. Only you will know when the best time is.
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The 35L job is very demanding. It's very writing intensive because our job is based on reports. Depending on what your job is now, the biggest challenge could transitioning to a Military Intelligence environment. The job is very rewarding, but it's not for everyone. There are so many school options it's crazy. Any other questions let me know.
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SGT(P) (Join to see)
What was the transition like? What were they looking for? How is the job now versus your last MOS?
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