Posted on Aug 1, 2015
Has the time come to abolish the Electoral College???
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What is the purpose of a popular vote by the American public IF a select group of people can negate that popular vote and choose someone else? IT HAS HAPPENED.
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No. It was put in the constitution to prevent one party rule. Small states like Rhode Island, Delaware, or states with Low populations would have not say in the presidential elections. States with large populations would elect the presidents and we would wind up with a long list of corrupt leaders who are out there to line their pockets with our tax dollars. Plus there are signs that one of the major political parties has tried to rig recent Presidential elections in their favor. For example there are news reports that large numbers of people who because of their lack of citizenship are not allowed to vote have indeed voted. The Electoral College helps prevent the election of a president for life by a half dozen states.
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Only if you want your president to be the choice of the major metropolitan areas on either coast.
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This is a military forum not a place to discuss politics.
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LTC (Join to see)
I fully agree... which is why I extracted all references to the current political situation from the Friedman article (above) which explains the nature of the institution that selects our commander in chief and which is fundamental to the stability of the geopolitical construct that is the United States. The idea is to NOT discuss politics and, for those who may have any doubts, clarify the nature of this great country of ours and its institutions.
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This has been a source of discussion since John Quincy Adams won. Hasn't happened yet. The Politicians won't push it through and two thirds of states approving it is very difficult.
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In order to do that it would require a Constitutional Convention, but I am OK with that as long as it is after January 20th and the Trump team is in place. May want to check out the way to get this done considering the way the last election turned out. We could clean up a lot of ambiguity in the constitution and its amendments. Not directed at you PO2 Peter Klein, but a general comment.
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Cpl Cary Cartter
The ambiguity is due to the Founding Fathers wanting the majority of the power in the hands of the People, though the states. It ain't broke.
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"James Madison worried about what he called "factions," which he defined as groups of citizens who have a common interest in some proposal that would either violate the rights of other citizens or would harm the nation as a whole. Madison’s fear – which Alexis de Tocqueville later dubbed "the tyranny of the majority" – was that a faction could grow to encompass more than 50 percent of the population, at which point it could "sacrifice to its ruling passion or interest both the public good and the rights of other citizens." Madison has a solution for tyranny of the majority: "A republic, by which I mean a government in which the scheme of representation takes place, opens a different prospect, and promises the cure for which we are seeking." http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/faq.html
The official U.S. Electoral College web site, providing current information about the presidential election, information about the roles and responsibilities of state officials and Electors, instructions for state officials and Electors, the timeline of key dates for the presidential election, information about laws and legal requirements related to the presidential election and the Electors, and Electoral vote distribution among the states....
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1LT (Join to see)
BTW: I like the information provided by Stanford historian Jack Rakove found here (See link) http://news.stanford.edu/2012/08/20/rakove-electoral-college-082012/
Why do we still let the Electoral College pick our president?
Stanford Pulitzer Prize winning historian Jack Rakove believes the founding fathers would agree that it’s time to change the 225-year-old Electoral College
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The voters of States elect representatives to cast the States' votes. The EC is critical for maintaining States' rights and autonomy.
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