Posted on Jun 24, 2019
Hiding service from employer due to affirmative action?
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Hey, y'all. Ive got a problem. I recently applied at an international company for an armed security position here in the states. They set up an interview for tomorrow, and said to bring all my DD214s. The issue is, I never disclosed any of my previous affiliation with the military. It wouldn't be a problem since I was only ARNG, that's easy to hide. But I have 3 deployments, and 4 DD214s on my record. This company is an affirmative action employer, and aside from my hatred for my "service", I don't want to end up getting hired just because of a law that requires it based off my part time employment with the state, and fed government. They're going to do a thorough background check, so they would find out anyway, but at that point its up to them whether to hire me or not, instead of some law requiring it. It seems though they've already found out. Even though I answered no on all the vet and military questions.
How do I politely admit to them I am "prior service" (even though I was just NG), while at the same time declining to make that a part of my resume, and not come off as shady? Should I email them back today telling them so? I've never had a problem before because the employers just did a very basic check if any. I really want this job, but I only want it if I'm hired for being me not because of an 8 year mistake I made after high school.
Do I confess to it, or just keep hiding it?
Thanks.
How do I politely admit to them I am "prior service" (even though I was just NG), while at the same time declining to make that a part of my resume, and not come off as shady? Should I email them back today telling them so? I've never had a problem before because the employers just did a very basic check if any. I really want this job, but I only want it if I'm hired for being me not because of an 8 year mistake I made after high school.
Do I confess to it, or just keep hiding it?
Thanks.
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Wouldn't try to hide it, they already know, unless your service wasn't an honorable discharge , they will likely be checking your integrity with a one-on-one Interview.
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Since this a job for an armed security position. One can only assume you will have a deep dive background check done. Which will show you are prior service. If their job application ask if you are prior service and you answer no you are lying on the application. Leaving info off your resume is ok but when you fill out the paperwork they require for the job you need to answer truthfully and not omit. For that is grounds for not hiring you or if they found out later you lied either outright or by omission that is grounds for termination. Almost sounds like you want to be hired but on your own terms. Furthermore, if an international company is looking to hire you for an armed security position, that means they will do a very complete check. Your prior service shows you are more mature and easier to clear you for possible clearances that your job or future jobs will need. So you need to be truthful with them.
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Smh, although you get vet preference it doesn't mean you will get picked above all those people that were honest on there application. No matter what the reason, after finding out you withheld information I wouldn't hire you anyway. Don't understand why you don't want to disclose your service? Most applications ask if you want to use your vet preference. Honesty is always best policy. Be thankful your not a felon that really needs a job and made mistakes after high school. It's Thanksgiving be grateful.
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A"mistake" why were you scared? Ashamed of your country? Sounds like you have an estrogen problem
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As a veteran, and a retiree who has been a hiring manager for a while, don't hide things, that's not a privacy issue, to a hiring manager it's an integrity issue and will lose you a potential job.
If you cannot show me your very best in terms of honesty and integrity in the interview process, how are you going to perform under REAL stress? I would file your resume in the "we are required by law to keep it on file for 6 months" pile and not schedule an interview.
Speaking of required by law, employers are required BY LAW to ascertain Veteran status of their employees, especially "protected Veterans" and comply with certain mandates regarding them. They don't get a choice in that, and you should cooperate. And stop being ashamed of your service, it's most likely what got you the experience to get to the interview you're trying to screw up.
If you cannot show me your very best in terms of honesty and integrity in the interview process, how are you going to perform under REAL stress? I would file your resume in the "we are required by law to keep it on file for 6 months" pile and not schedule an interview.
Speaking of required by law, employers are required BY LAW to ascertain Veteran status of their employees, especially "protected Veterans" and comply with certain mandates regarding them. They don't get a choice in that, and you should cooperate. And stop being ashamed of your service, it's most likely what got you the experience to get to the interview you're trying to screw up.
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Hello James , you seem to be a real pathetic pos . I wouldn’t put you in the same league as bergdaul or manning , but I’m sure If you’re put in the right positions you could achieve their status. I commend your dubious attempt to besmirch those who have served proudly , but I don’t think you’ll find anyone as fucked up in the head as you, who would be able to sincerely reciprocate your twisted , bizarro “situation” . Now please go forth with your miserable fucking life.
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Get over it. Thirty or forty years ago most employers asked to see your DD-214. This is most likely a standard request (whether they know or not) as the first level of screening. All they're going to do is look at your characterization of service (discharge), weapons qualifications and training. The request is comparable to asking for college transcripts. No one cares about your perception of military service or if you hated your last job. If you want the job, I suggest you take your 214 and keep your mouth shut. You're applying for a armed security position. Say there was 50 applicants and I'm down to 20 to interview, 4 have military experience...who do you think the company is going to look at hard? Maybe someone with maturity, experience, training, integrity, ability to show up on time and adhere to standards. These are qualities you gained in the Military regardless if you hated it.....you served (and only 1% of the population can say that now)!
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Get over it. 30, 40 yrs ago most employers asked to see your 214. This was most likely just a standard request by the company (rather or not they know). Its part of the first level screening during an interview, similar to asking for college transcripts Vs you claiming a degree on your resume or going to Kinko's and printing a "Degree" on some quality paper. All they are going to do is look at your discharge and verify category of service, maybe weapons qualifications and training.
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I would email them and tell them the truth. Would not mention you felt it was a mistake. I would just say this was my military service but I would like hired on my qualifications. Many companies like the qualifications the military gives you though. And what do you mean “just NG”. Sounds like you did more service than many RA!
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