Posted on Nov 13, 2015
How are we to defend against Paris style attacks from happening?
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You have to eliminate the social, religious and economic factors that create them in the first place. Terrorism is a symptom, not the underlying condition...
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Vit Spirek
yes the groups which produce terrorists have same mistake which we know like inequality in something between two persons or whole groups, effort eliminate inequality is part of large strategy where right of woman is main strategic step to break back bone of extreme groups like isis, then learning young people and mapping people from the dangerous groups on line in cities, yes it includes many new chances for people from army and veterans
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PO3 Sherry Thornburg
unfortunately, extremists know that education is their death, so they fight tooth and nail to keep education away from general population and threaten and kill anyone who tries to bring it. Hince, schools for girls in Afgan being destroyed.
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PO3 Sherry Thornburg
and children's school supplies being taken away and sold if allowed to be taken home. that happened when foreign programs built and ran schools. Examples came directly from experiences in Iraq.
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This is obviously a controversial proposition, but add more guns to the equation. Give the citizens the right and legal ability to fight back. As a society endorse and encourage open/conceal carry, and end "gun free" zones. Police can only do so much, and there is no solution to terrorism, which leaves only this.
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COL Ted Mc
CW4 Guy Butler - Chief Warrant; Marc Ouimet's brief (17 page) article in "Canada and the United States: Differences that Count, Third Edition" - Thomas & Torrey (Eds) [University of Toronto Press, Higher Education Division; 3 edition (January 1, 2008) - ISBN-10: [login to see] - ISBN-13: [login to see] 126] points out some interesting similarities and differences between the American and Canadian crime rates.
Probably to the surprise of many, if only two factors are controlled for when compiling crime statistics then the crime rates in both countries are (essentially) almost the same.
Those two factors are [a] the existence of "ghettos" in large urban centers and [b] the existence of easily identifiable (and significantly large) "minorities".
If those two factors are taken into account (by excluding crime associated with them) then the crime rates tend to parallel each other. (The major difference being that the Canadian crimes tend to be committed less violently.)
If you look at the "First Nations" in Canada and the "Afro-Americans" in America, you see an incredible amount of similarity. The MAIN difference between the two is that the "Afro-Americans" tend to be in large urban centers while the "First Nations" don't.
As far as "identifiable minorities" the largest one in Canada is Francophones and they, unlike the "Afro-Americans", have a concentrated and recognized geographic focus so they are able to deal with the federal government on a government to government basis.
Probably to the surprise of many, if only two factors are controlled for when compiling crime statistics then the crime rates in both countries are (essentially) almost the same.
Those two factors are [a] the existence of "ghettos" in large urban centers and [b] the existence of easily identifiable (and significantly large) "minorities".
If those two factors are taken into account (by excluding crime associated with them) then the crime rates tend to parallel each other. (The major difference being that the Canadian crimes tend to be committed less violently.)
If you look at the "First Nations" in Canada and the "Afro-Americans" in America, you see an incredible amount of similarity. The MAIN difference between the two is that the "Afro-Americans" tend to be in large urban centers while the "First Nations" don't.
As far as "identifiable minorities" the largest one in Canada is Francophones and they, unlike the "Afro-Americans", have a concentrated and recognized geographic focus so they are able to deal with the federal government on a government to government basis.
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SGT Bryan O'Reilly
I think if executed soberly, I.E in coordination with small arms safety training, and a coordinated action plan with regular drills this could be a very good thing. potentially saving the 2nd amendment and with it the integrity of our constitution. understand when the founders envisioned "A well regulated Militia" they did not anticipate gentrification. Safeway Arbbes, etc they thought, understandably at that time, we would hunt every day to feed our families and be familiar with weapons. We take an oath to protect the constitution I think civs should take omne to understand it and that shoud include safety training to familiarize them with weapons and remove the mystique.
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There are many layers to this but it starts at the top. We must call them what they are and make serious efforts to kill them where they breed and not allow them to spread. We have essentially refused to do so for many years now.
We allow radicals to easily move around the planet by not more forcefully refusing entry to them. We are not contemplating allowing thousands to enter with little or no documentation. Europe is already flush with these sorts. You don't need massive numbers, only committed groups willing to die for the cause. I think we all know there are plenty of those in the radical islamist ranks.
The reason Paris and other European cities are and will continue to be targets is they are easy to hit. Many already have been and it will continue until they find the backbone to dispense with the PC approach and start going after anyone with links or even mouthing support and sending them back from whence they came or to prison. The attackers know the populace in unarmed and unable to defend itself. They will have hours to unleash their murderous spree before being cornered and killed.
The advantage we have here is many armed people will make it more likely they are less successful. They will however pick their targets wisely. They will hit cities with stringent gun control and unarmed citizens that will not be able to repel an attack. I and many others here have been saying it for a while. This is coming to our shores, the terrorists are here and they will strike. Our open borders, PC approach to radicals, unwillingness to keep them on the defensive where they breed and a lack of resolve from the white house to eliminate the threat have made the now inevitable possible.
We allow radicals to easily move around the planet by not more forcefully refusing entry to them. We are not contemplating allowing thousands to enter with little or no documentation. Europe is already flush with these sorts. You don't need massive numbers, only committed groups willing to die for the cause. I think we all know there are plenty of those in the radical islamist ranks.
The reason Paris and other European cities are and will continue to be targets is they are easy to hit. Many already have been and it will continue until they find the backbone to dispense with the PC approach and start going after anyone with links or even mouthing support and sending them back from whence they came or to prison. The attackers know the populace in unarmed and unable to defend itself. They will have hours to unleash their murderous spree before being cornered and killed.
The advantage we have here is many armed people will make it more likely they are less successful. They will however pick their targets wisely. They will hit cities with stringent gun control and unarmed citizens that will not be able to repel an attack. I and many others here have been saying it for a while. This is coming to our shores, the terrorists are here and they will strike. Our open borders, PC approach to radicals, unwillingness to keep them on the defensive where they breed and a lack of resolve from the white house to eliminate the threat have made the now inevitable possible.
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Stop being soft targets, accept national security is everyone's duty and stop working under the assumption that vigilance and information sharing are the jobs of a few agencies.
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It's not about who is in office. And I'd like to think it's not about constant vigilance on the home front. I don't want to live in an America where I have to skulk around at the low ready in preparation for a possible terrorist. That being said, I don't know. It's a mutual contribution between homeland security, military intelligence and local law enforcement (along with other three-letter agencies). But really, how to you stop a dedicated enemy who is living amongst us who wants to perpetrate something like Paris? How much freedom do you want to give up to ensure your safety?
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Sgt Nick Marshall
I did not want to get into a second amendment argument, but more people die, in this country, from accidents involving firearms, than from terrorism, by a vary large factor.
If we could improve, and require certification for civilians, that would be helpful. I have lived in Paris, my fiancée lives there now, I would hate to see it become armed, as would the French.
If we could improve, and require certification for civilians, that would be helpful. I have lived in Paris, my fiancée lives there now, I would hate to see it become armed, as would the French.
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PV2 Scott Goodpasture
If the French want to lay down and die at the hands of some 7th century goat humpers then all is lost for them. Thank God for the resistance in WWII, eh? An accidental firearm related death isn't the same as Akbar picking a fight to the death. The flu kills people electricity kills people bees kill people your point is invalid
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SFC Jason Babb
Considering the number of fratricides on a confusing battlefield... do you think that civilians trying to gun down two gunmen in a crowded venue would've resulted in more deaths or less deaths?
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Unfortunately the only real defense is is just that defence. It's Time to start hitting the range and qualify monthly with licensed concealed weapons.
I took my 24 year old daughter today. She'll be trained up and licensed in about 6weeks. We can only be ready if someone starts shooting.
I took my 24 year old daughter today. She'll be trained up and licensed in about 6weeks. We can only be ready if someone starts shooting.
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Arm everyone who demonstrates the physical and mental ability to defend the country. In other words, quit villan-izing gun ownership.
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I've given this a great deal of thought, since its obvious that, at some point, it WILL come here. To that end, I leave the defending of such things to the response teams, and I have taught my adult kids, and their friends three things. 1> Try to stay out of large Unarmed crowds, which in Houston, are not very common. I'd rather be around a lot of lawful gun carrying adults than in a crowd with people who were totally unarmed and helpless.
2> Look for exits in every large gathering or room you enter that you are not familiar with, and consider how best to get to those exits.
3> Get a Concealed Handgun License and carry a gun.
We know they are coming, we just don't know where or when, so staying away from large crowds and defenseless areas seems like my best options at this point. At this age, I can no longer take down a bad guy with muscles, being armed keeps me from being a soft target myself.
2> Look for exits in every large gathering or room you enter that you are not familiar with, and consider how best to get to those exits.
3> Get a Concealed Handgun License and carry a gun.
We know they are coming, we just don't know where or when, so staying away from large crowds and defenseless areas seems like my best options at this point. At this age, I can no longer take down a bad guy with muscles, being armed keeps me from being a soft target myself.
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Sgt Nick Marshall
My only concern is with civilians who are not as disciplined with firearms as we are. More Anericans die from gun accidents than by terrorists, by a long stretch.
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