Posted on Feb 4, 2020
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I checked the "Do not promote" box for the MSG list in 2019 and still got picked up.

I have 18 years 6 months AD and intended to retire at my small current post which is mostly civilian with a good civilian job already lined up. My wife is in her last year of law school here and also planned to get a civilian position on the same post. There are too many reasons to list but I am done with the Army. I was just trying to put my head down for 18 more months and get out. I was told since I signed an Indefinite contract years ago declining promotion wasn't an option and then I quickly received orders to Drum for 6/20.

My wife refuses to PCS. She told me when she moved here 4 years ago that this was her last PCS and she'd be putting down roots here and finally starting her career. I promised her it was the last and I'd make sure all my stuff was in order to retire.

Of course, the Army doesn't care about anything in my family life and I have no idea what to do. I was so close to retirement and it's all being ripped out from under me along with a divorce from my wife of 10 years and a long-distance relationship with my young son. My ETS date now has 4 more years added to it for a promotion I never wanted. I'm at the point I'm ready to AWOL or get a DUI just to save my marriage and stay put. I question if I was lied to and declining promotion was always an option.

Is there any avenue to take to stop this PCS?
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MSgt Gary Hinkelman
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I fully get where your family and you stand. I enjoy being retired military vet. However, my suggestion to all Active Duty members. STAY IN-do whatever it takes to wear the uniform.

Will a PCS be difficult, maybe only at first. I can promise a new sense of purpose once you put that stripe on. I can promise, that your wife will come around.

Maybe you PCS ahead of her while she finishes her degree. Maybe she comes with; finding at another college path.

I do enjoy being retired; but within 1 year after, I knew I made a mistake. Stay In, earn the highest rank you can, stay fit... Without the service, nothing will be the same.
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My wife can't leave law school after the last 6 years of work she's put in and then won't leave her career. She makes triple what I do I don't blame her.
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SFC Melvin Brandenburg
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My father went through that same thing.
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SFC Incheon Airport Jppc Ncoic
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Unfortunately as long as you’re serving in the military you cannot make a promise to your family you won’t move again if you have 5yrs or more remaining before you can retire. Based upon your report date and the information you provided about your time in service, you’ll have 18yrs 10 months upon your arrival to Drum. If you backward plan and based upon leave accrual and 20 days PTDY for retirement, and 10 working days of out-processing, you can potentially serve 8-10months at Drum if you submit your packet 1 August.

Put a plan together, discuss it with your spouse. As a team determine the options for your family. You worked hard toward your retirement, don’t throw it away over serving a couple of months at a temporary location since your original plan was to retire. Don’t make a permanent decision while experiencing temporary emotions. It’s doable as long as you two work together. Good luck to you....
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MSgt Michael Smith
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1) Go to Fort Drum.
2) At 19 years, file paperwork to retire in one year.
3) Retire in August, 2021.
That whole indefinite contract was custom made for situations like this. With the old way you would have to get an extension to PCS --an extension you could decline and then still retire. But you are in luck because at 19 years you can file retirement paperwork, which will be approved regardless of your time on station. This is one of the oldest tricks in the book with the military. Giving a person orders right before retirement eligibility starts is a great way to stick them for a couple of more years. But luckily you are not going to a remote assignment or a deployment, so you can still retire. Go there, get a studio apartment, and retire a year later.
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plus take 60 days terminal leave....
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CPL Gary Pifer
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..Aint that the time needed for her to get half the Retirement... If may have already been on the cards.... My SSGT friend was served on the day of his 20 year retirement.
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CPL Gary Pifer
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In the cards
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CPL Gary Pifer
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I'll trade with you... You can be the Brain injured Psych Disabled Veteran.. Deaf.. crosseyed.. 64 year old and I can be you... Thank your Lucky stars..
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SFC Melvin Brandenburg
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good luck
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