Posted on Oct 27, 2020
How can I ETS from stateside if I get out in 14 months and am being told I must ETS from overseas?
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am etsing dec 11 2021 and currently now overseas.. now career counseler saying i must ets from overseas.. is it anyway to finish n states? re enlistment not an option. extending 12 months or more not an option. anyone can help?
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You must have six months from your DEROS to ETS from a short tour or 12 months for a long tour to return to the states. If extending isn't an option then returning to the states isn't an option
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SGT Robert Johnson I forget if its AR 614-30 Overseas assignments or AR 600-8-11 Reassignments that covers howuch time a Soldier has to have. I don't think there is a reg that says which countries you can separate from, but if there were it would be the Joint Federal Travel Regulation which covers tour lengths and other things like that. When Soldiers separate from overseas they are provided a plane ticket home. If they want to stay they have to have the permission of the local government because they're no longer protected by the Status of Forces agreement
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I had a really really bad unit (leadership circle) when i was overseas and all I wanted to do was get out. But I was told the same thing and it was so bad to stay for the rest of that remaining year i re-upped for 3 and went to Ft. Drum (actually turned out to go to Griffis AFB because the contractors screwed up our hangers for the new unit and we couldn't occupy them). Now I can say that second unit, I could just about hug everyone in my chain of command for the contrast of difference from my previous unit. So, if you can shelter in place and ride out the tour, make it your plan. I ended up staying 30 years in the military ...lol.
I see you have a Bachelor's Degree already in Exercise Fitness, is your plan to use that to gain employment? With a lot of places minimizing contact from Covid, employment might be very difficult to attain in the career field right now. If you want to land something with your fresh logistics MOS history your chances are better. Take a look at some of the certifications people are getting in logistics and supply by looking at profiles on LinkedIn of people working in jobs your eyeballing for your next career. Doesn't mean you have to have them achieved by the time your expecting to be working for one of these companies, but if your working on achieving one, you will look a hell of a lot better on resume review.
I see you have a Bachelor's Degree already in Exercise Fitness, is your plan to use that to gain employment? With a lot of places minimizing contact from Covid, employment might be very difficult to attain in the career field right now. If you want to land something with your fresh logistics MOS history your chances are better. Take a look at some of the certifications people are getting in logistics and supply by looking at profiles on LinkedIn of people working in jobs your eyeballing for your next career. Doesn't mean you have to have them achieved by the time your expecting to be working for one of these companies, but if your working on achieving one, you will look a hell of a lot better on resume review.
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Have you checked with a Reserve Recruiter? Maybe you could transition to the reserves & maybe go back active later on. Not sure on the ETS overseas, the Army usually sends people back to the States to finish outprocessing/ACAP processing.
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I don't have any answers to your question because I simply don't know it.
I have only posted to make you aware that 180 days out, start opening your VA claim. While you are in right now, start building up your medical record. Your back, knees, neck, feet, ankles. Get everything recorded. Many vets don't know much about VA or always have that "i will do it" (and then never do) mentality. Look up the Va disabilities rates, to help motivate you because once you get it, the money comes in on the 1st of the month, every.single.month. 100% lands you like $3,200 a month, single, no dependents, and more if you have a spouse or children. You can claim va with nothing in your medical record, but it helps for the VA to service connect it if its in your military medical record. There is many information online to find out about how to claim, the benefits etc, but you have to be aware of how to use them. Just make sure, while you are in, 180 days out from your ETS. Open your claim through ebenefits.
I have only posted to make you aware that 180 days out, start opening your VA claim. While you are in right now, start building up your medical record. Your back, knees, neck, feet, ankles. Get everything recorded. Many vets don't know much about VA or always have that "i will do it" (and then never do) mentality. Look up the Va disabilities rates, to help motivate you because once you get it, the money comes in on the 1st of the month, every.single.month. 100% lands you like $3,200 a month, single, no dependents, and more if you have a spouse or children. You can claim va with nothing in your medical record, but it helps for the VA to service connect it if its in your military medical record. There is many information online to find out about how to claim, the benefits etc, but you have to be aware of how to use them. Just make sure, while you are in, 180 days out from your ETS. Open your claim through ebenefits.
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Sgt J W
Oh, and if you ever want to do government contracting, start looking into those as well. You have a little over a year to get out and its time to start thinking about what you are going to do and or landing those positions so when you get out you are good to go. Start saving now. The grass is green on the other side, dont let anyone scare you. You will fit right in. Back to the contracting, you can check out companies like CACI, Vectruss, Constellis, Fluor, ITT and many others. They have many positions, in Kuwait, Afghanistan, Qatar, Poland, Germany and so much more so many more places. When you apply for a certain position, put some of those words on the job requirements or qualifications and mix those into your resume, as they all use a system that basically takes key words from your resume to alert the recruiters for the company, so basically use those bullet points, turn it into your own words sorta for your experience. Open a linkedin account, and look for recruiters also for whichever specific company and send them a message. People end up being in for so long they think the grass isnt greener on the other side, it is, and it can be, and its not hard at all to land a good position, but you do have to time, take time into applying.
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Sgt J W
Lastly, if you choose to do school, whatever school you find, make sure you see if they have a veterans center, I cant remember what its called but they are legit, just let them know you are a veteran and they pretty much take it from there and assist you in every step. BAH comes in on the 1st of every month but does take about a month until you get the first payment. After that its smooth sailing. Like I started school in Jan for example and if I remember correctly I got my first check which was also back paid in like March 1, and then every 1st it came in. With that veterans center, they also help you study, and give you a bunch of things to assist you. I never liked school but college was different, people my age, and i had a great time. Government contracting is good too, but you are in a good position right now because you have many time to think about what you want to do. Dont be scared, you are use to change and the change will be good, stay motivated, you'll adapt just fine.
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Where are you stationed? I ets’d from Germany and took terminal leave and finished stateside. But if you are overseas you haven’t got a choice to ets conus. You would have to extend and PCs but you mention that’s not an option. Agree with previous statement enjoy being oconus while you are there. The transition isn’t much more difficult than a conus ETS.
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