Posted on Aug 19, 2019
PFC M240 Gunner
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Is there any way I can fight being chaptered for failing ASAP? What kind of discharge is it?
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SFC Retention Operations Nco
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You generally can't. It's up to your command. Technically it rests at the Brigade commander discretion. If you don't have six years of service you can't request a separation board to fight it either.
You'd have to convince your command that you're worth saving and fighting for.
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I appreciate the comment Sgt? Do you know what kind of discharge it is? I'm not expecting a honorable but I just dont want anything worse than a general.
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SFC Retention Operations Nco
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PFC (Join to see) you have to get in pretty serious trouble to get lower than a general discharge
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CSM William Everroad
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Without knowing more of your story, I have to look at it from the point of view of your command. You made a bad choice and were given the opportunity to continue being a valued member of the team by completing ASAP. You made another bad choice in ASAP and failed to complete. If you go back to your counseling statements you should see that there are consequences to those actions resulting in separation for failure to maintain standards.
You may have a leg to stand on if you were a self-referral. The only recourse you have now is to reach out to your NCO support channel to get in a room with the commander and plead your case.
If you are separated, I think is is characterized as an OTH.
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SFC Michael Hasbun
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So I'm going to tell you an unspoken, well known secret.....
Chains of Command have a bit of latitude when it comes to whether or not they will actively pursue a chapter. First instinct is generally not too, because it's a paperwork hassle. It eats a lot of time and effort.
BLUF: If your unit is actively chaptering you, you've been identified as a burden, and you need to go. If you fight and stay, be prepared for EVERYTHING to go on paper so another chapter can be pursued. BLUF PS: Learn from this and move on. Do some soul searching. Don't burden your unit and the Army in general with your BS. Your leadership is busy enough as it is. They don't need someone who isn't value added.
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I totally agree but it's not like I showed up drunk. My dumbass told the counselor I still drink here and there. I thought why should I lie to the guy but then a hour after the class I got a call from my leadership telling me I failed and that I'm getting chaptered. What kind of discharge Sgt?
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SFC Michael Hasbun
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Chapter 9, AR 635-200,
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