Posted on Feb 4, 2019
How can I get a copy of my orders to amend my DD 214?
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About a month after I retired in 1979, I received by mai, a MSM Medal and Certificate. These have been misplaced over he years. I have attempted to get coy of the orders to have my DD 214 amended, and no one seems to be able to help; even being told once that"You never received the MSM." Any suggestions??
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SFC Bill Snyder Have you tried using the Veteran resources on the NPRC website?
Vetrecs: https://vetrecs.archives.gov/VeteranRequest/home.html
Or Google NPRC obtain veteran records. You may have some luck. They can't blame it on the fire.
Have you tried going to the issuing headquarters for the MSM? It would be the two star command's G1. There is a reason they issue a permanent order number.
Vetrecs: https://vetrecs.archives.gov/VeteranRequest/home.html
Or Google NPRC obtain veteran records. You may have some luck. They can't blame it on the fire.
Have you tried going to the issuing headquarters for the MSM? It would be the two star command's G1. There is a reason they issue a permanent order number.
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SFC Bill Snyder
I've contact DA, Army Records, etc. I even sent in a copy of the Award Certificate. Some one must have a record of Gereral Orders issued by Ft. Jackson. Guess I'll have to pay them a visit. Also send the request to FtKnox. BTW, I thought Army Recordswas atFt Ben.Thanks all for the help.
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LTC Jason Mackay
SFC Bill Snyder - youre looking for the permanent order, which is the DA 638 once the award is approved. The G1 slaps a PO number on the backside, bottom. The PO may or may not be on the certificate, bottom right. General Orders are a different kettle of fish. They are used to publish unit citations, LOMs for Individuals, and Valor Awards for individuals.
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The 638 souls have been put in your record, request a copy of your military record. Once you have it along with any other changes you want made to your DD214 submit a DD215 change document, submit to HRC @ Fort Knox
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OK. An update. Finally went to my Safe Deposit Box and in it there was an envelope I received some years ago when I asked for a copy of my Military Records. It it was a barely legible set of orders dated Sept 14,1979. On the second page there it was, Award of the MSM. What a trip. Going to send off the necessary paperwork tomorrow for the DD Fm 214 correction. I Want to thank all of you for the help, assistance and guidance in this search. So, as they would say in my second life: Cold Case Successfully closed.
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Had exactly the same problem when I retired from Ft. Hood Tx. got so tired of people jerking my chain and just plain not answering. I just gave it up have since lost the certificate but still have the ribbon and I think but neither do any good with out Orders.
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SFC Robert Walton
I was told before I left that the award would be shipped my mail as well as a video of the retirement, Never got the video but got the medal with a cert. and no orders.
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Go to your local VA Rep for the County they will be happy to track down what you need Sir .
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The fire at the National Personnel Records Center (NPRC) in St. Louis was in 1973, so your records were not destroyed in the fire.
You can request your record using Request Records Online with eVetRecs, or by faxing or mailing a letter or Standard Form (SF) 180, Request Pertaining to Military Records to the NPRC. Link to that page is below.
Note that if the date on the certificate was after the date you signed out, it is more likely than not that the orders would not have made it to your 201 file before it was mailed to the NPRC. To make the chances worse, normal distribution of orders would not have included the transition office, so it is unlikely the orders made it to your 201 file. I provide that information to avoid giving you false hope.
You could request a DD215. I'm uncertain if the certificate will do, but you should consider emailing them and asking.
Corrections to only add or delete awards or decorations (DD Form 214, Block 13):
Commander, US Army Human Resources Command, ATTN: AHRC-PDP-A, Dept 480,
1600 Spearhead Division Avenue, Fort Knox, KY 40122-5408
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https://www.archives.gov/personnel-records-center/ompf-access
You can request your record using Request Records Online with eVetRecs, or by faxing or mailing a letter or Standard Form (SF) 180, Request Pertaining to Military Records to the NPRC. Link to that page is below.
Note that if the date on the certificate was after the date you signed out, it is more likely than not that the orders would not have made it to your 201 file before it was mailed to the NPRC. To make the chances worse, normal distribution of orders would not have included the transition office, so it is unlikely the orders made it to your 201 file. I provide that information to avoid giving you false hope.
You could request a DD215. I'm uncertain if the certificate will do, but you should consider emailing them and asking.
Corrections to only add or delete awards or decorations (DD Form 214, Block 13):
Commander, US Army Human Resources Command, ATTN: AHRC-PDP-A, Dept 480,
1600 Spearhead Division Avenue, Fort Knox, KY 40122-5408
[login to see]
https://www.archives.gov/personnel-records-center/ompf-access
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SP5 Joel O'Brien
It's also worth contacting someone at the VFW. Even if you're not a member I believe they can give you some help in this matter.
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Bill i just found out that if you have a certificate on the bottom boarder should be some numbers that always relates the certificate with the Orders Those numbers could be used to ask for a copy of orders.
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