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I'm an E-4 in the 31E MOS and got put on orders to Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. I re-enlisted in September 2019 for 3 years with 18 months stability. My stability is over in March 2021 and they put on orders to Cuba set to report in May 2021. I've already tried submitting a 4187 to cancel them, but that didn't work. I talked to my Career Counselor and he said he'll call branch, but I haven't heard back from him yet.
I re-enlisted for stability to stay here, finish my bachelor's degree, run my business and transition out once my contract is up. Not to PCS to Cuba. I know I sound selfish and please don't say "that's just how the Army works". I've heard it all. I'm going to college and started a welding business that is doing great. I did all this before knowing about these orders and I know the Army won't care, but I've been with my fiancee for 2 years now and we're planning on getting married soon. So a PCS isn't really in the cards for me.
Please, can someone here give me some decent guidance how to cancel or get out of these orders? I've tried decking them, but was told I have too much time left on my contract (ETS = September 2022). I do not care about ruining my career or future with the Army because I'm getting out 110% in 2022. I just want to stay here, get married, graduate college and grow my business for when I get out and I'll do basically anything at this point.
Thanks, RP!
I re-enlisted for stability to stay here, finish my bachelor's degree, run my business and transition out once my contract is up. Not to PCS to Cuba. I know I sound selfish and please don't say "that's just how the Army works". I've heard it all. I'm going to college and started a welding business that is doing great. I did all this before knowing about these orders and I know the Army won't care, but I've been with my fiancee for 2 years now and we're planning on getting married soon. So a PCS isn't really in the cards for me.
Please, can someone here give me some decent guidance how to cancel or get out of these orders? I've tried decking them, but was told I have too much time left on my contract (ETS = September 2022). I do not care about ruining my career or future with the Army because I'm getting out 110% in 2022. I just want to stay here, get married, graduate college and grow my business for when I get out and I'll do basically anything at this point.
Thanks, RP!
PCS
Orders
Guantanamo Bay
95B: Military Police
ETS/EAS
Posted 5 y ago
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You re-enlisted for STABILITY? So you fulfilled your first contract and thought you were in a position of stability? Okay, either you don't pay attention to what is going on around you, or your command is piss poor. What on God's green earth every made you think that station assignments were stable. The only thing stable is your paycheck and that you have a job. Back in the day you could go to CSM and claim you're gay and that would've got you out - not any longer. If your welding business is going so well, why would you re-enlist? You can take online classes to get your BA, or BS, that's what I did, and after I retired I went to brick and mortar for my MA. There are options for your education, but your business? Well, your primary job and commitment is to the Army. Yes, it is pretty selfish that you think somebody else should go and your stability should be the Army's priority. You must have watched the old commercials and believe that you are an Army of One.
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Maybe say you are addicted to drugs. How about stick it out bc that shows the kind of man you are. You cannot quit everything just bc it doesn’t suit your current needs. If you quit before your obligation ends how can you earn any respect. You wanna get married? Stupid unless you are gonna have a child. You are not well established enough to get married, wait til you’re 35. Contract a welder while you are away.
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The Army did their part...now do yours. If you're the kind of "businessman" that cannot respect a contract or your word...as in oath, then I would not want to be a client of yours.
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Get your bags packed because your going soldier. The government upheld their side of the contractual agreement now you have to do yours. Your civilian job can wait. Your future wife can wait if she truly loves you and you can postpone finishing your degree until you get back or work with your college to do online classes. No excuses you agreed to the terms now your stuck with it. Part of being an adult soldier Army Strong !!!!
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The military is not some part time job boys and girls. You made a commitment to serve. If you want out because your service is getting in the way of your job ask for a dishonorable discharge? I am sure you will be fine.
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Talk to your welding customers and let them know you’re still active duty and being deployed to Gitmo. They will be there when you get back. President Biden has said he is dramatically reducing the usage of Guantanamo Bay and May is still two months away, your orders may change. It used to be only a six month stint back in the old days.
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How are you running a business while being active military? Quite a conflict of interest, don't you think?
Methinks you should diligently perform the duties you promised and swore to do when you reenlisted, then continue your education and business operations afterward. If your private interests are worth anything at all, they are worth waiting for. And think of the additions you can make to your resume when you return home!
Think ahead, show excellent performance, and get promoted so can support your family more comfortably - both in the military and as a civilian. Enjoy your time in Cuba!
Dave Casey
Methinks you should diligently perform the duties you promised and swore to do when you reenlisted, then continue your education and business operations afterward. If your private interests are worth anything at all, they are worth waiting for. And think of the additions you can make to your resume when you return home!
Think ahead, show excellent performance, and get promoted so can support your family more comfortably - both in the military and as a civilian. Enjoy your time in Cuba!
Dave Casey
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I have a friend who is an attorney in the Reserves. He got called up for a year in GITMO. Left a great paying job and a pregnant wife. And he wasn't a full-time soldier. Do your duty man!
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File for a financial hardship. You only have 17 months left in service. Do you have finance books to show money you have spent to build business. Do you have school transactions that show you are enrolled?
I would be the first to jump on the "thats the Army" but I am not going to.
And if your going to get married do it now.. Like before Friday. You can have a wedding later. That will also change the game. As of now she is just a girlfriend. Besides why not take advantage of the perks.
I have built my business over the years and completely understand your situation.
Get your facts in order then go see the IG and state your case.
Do not do anything stupid to result in getting kicked out.. That will haunt you in years to come....
I would be the first to jump on the "thats the Army" but I am not going to.
And if your going to get married do it now.. Like before Friday. You can have a wedding later. That will also change the game. As of now she is just a girlfriend. Besides why not take advantage of the perks.
I have built my business over the years and completely understand your situation.
Get your facts in order then go see the IG and state your case.
Do not do anything stupid to result in getting kicked out.. That will haunt you in years to come....
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Try to file hardship paper work based on your current financial situation. Also you can help your case with stating you have only 17 months left. To further help that you can bring up the fact that Biden (not my choice for commander in chief) is shutting that base down.
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