Posted on Oct 29, 2020
SGT Internment/Resettlement Specialist
28.5K
506
92
45
45
0
I'm an E-4 in the 31E MOS and got put on orders to Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. I re-enlisted in September 2019 for 3 years with 18 months stability. My stability is over in March 2021 and they put on orders to Cuba set to report in May 2021. I've already tried submitting a 4187 to cancel them, but that didn't work. I talked to my Career Counselor and he said he'll call branch, but I haven't heard back from him yet.

I re-enlisted for stability to stay here, finish my bachelor's degree, run my business and transition out once my contract is up. Not to PCS to Cuba. I know I sound selfish and please don't say "that's just how the Army works". I've heard it all. I'm going to college and started a welding business that is doing great. I did all this before knowing about these orders and I know the Army won't care, but I've been with my fiancee for 2 years now and we're planning on getting married soon. So a PCS isn't really in the cards for me.

Please, can someone here give me some decent guidance how to cancel or get out of these orders? I've tried decking them, but was told I have too much time left on my contract (ETS = September 2022). I do not care about ruining my career or future with the Army because I'm getting out 110% in 2022. I just want to stay here, get married, graduate college and grow my business for when I get out and I'll do basically anything at this point.

Thanks, RP!
Avatar feed
Responses: 63
SSG (Other / Not listed)
1
1
0
I'm going to approach this from two directions, I'm not sure how much either one will help you. There's a lot in this thread, my apologies if you've already answered some of my questions, or received similar advice in another comment.

First, I don't agree with the people saying that you need to just suck it up. In the end you may need to, but that doesn't mean that you can't try and get out of this. After all, if your needs are inconvenient for the Army, they wouldn't hesitate to screw you, so if their needs are inconvenient for you, then I'd say turnabout is fair play. I will echo some other comments which said not to burn to many bridges getting out. You've got a lot of life left, and going to extreme could stick around a long time, but that doesn't mean you can't try to get out of this pcs.

Unfortunately, I am far from an admin guru.

Aside from your career counselor, have you talked to your command about this at all? What was their response? As a 31E, it would seem that GTMO is the place to go. I would think that there would be competition for that job. Hell, is this an accompanied pcs? I'm tempted to volunteer for you. My experience has been that for every pcs/deployment someone doesn't want to do, there are three people wondering why they can't get that assignment. Would it be possible to find a volunteer to replace you? Your career counselor may be able to help you out with this. Also, is this an accompanied pcs?

The second direction I'm going to recommend is to not even try. 18 months will fly by. GTMO was my first duty station, I was there before there were any terrorists, just some refugees. I absolutely loved it. It is a tropical paradise. There's a reason why it was a tourist destination for the most high rolling capitalists before communism. GTMO is admittedly isolated, (though probably less so since there are more personnel there now,) and you probably won't meet any Cubans, but other than military stress, everything else was great.

The scuba diving is suppose to be the best in the world, and there are no tourists because there's landmines all over, so you get it all to yourself! Sadly, I can't speak from experience here, I never got certified because of stupidity, but you can! Fishing is outstanding, It is warm all year round. Running trails were good, and most importantly, I've still never had Jamaican jerk chicken better than I've had there. Not even close, and I've searched.

Speaking of searching, there was a bank robbery while I was there. They caught the culprits before they could leave the base, but the rumor was that they never recovered all the money and there's a couple hundred grand still out there. Happy hunting!
(1)
Comment
(0)
SSG Bob Teachout
SSG Bob Teachout
>1 y
SSG, I'm glad I wasn't in your platoon! Telling a GI "so if their needs are inconvenient for you, then I'd say turnabout is fair play." Now, if the EM has some pressing problems - and requested to stay based on that - that would be one thing. -- He complains that he has a fiancee - well he should get married now! ---- one other thing - I had completed 3 long overseas tours - after 2 years at Hood, came on levy for Alaska. At them time I had a pressing personal situation. I was seeking a one year deferment to get things straighten out - but was denied. The only options I had was too PCS or - since I was close to my ETS, I could have just gotten out of the Army. I went to Alaska. Due to that, It caused many problems -but I acted like an adult and an NCO since I did "suck it up".
(0)
Reply
(0)
Avatar small
1LT Medical-Surgical Nurse
1
1
0
You are stuck like Chuck. Get ready for Cuba.
(1)
Comment
(0)
SSG Bob Teachout
SSG Bob Teachout
>1 y
L T - I would love to be in your platoon!
(0)
Reply
(0)
Avatar small
LTC Program Manager
0
0
0
How's Cuba?
(0)
Comment
(0)
Avatar small
MSG Intermediate Care Technician
0
0
0
Made it to Cuba yet?
(0)
Comment
(0)
Avatar small
PFC Shawn West
0
0
0
Just now seeing this question, I'm genuinely curious how he's enjoying Cuba.
(0)
Comment
(0)
Avatar small
GySgt Electronics Maintenance Technician
0
0
0
Ah, the old "I don't want those orders" routine. In 1996, I saw a sailor want into the Captain's office and tell him he couldn't go another minute without another man's dick in his ass. He was processed out in 48 hours.... However, I don't think that matters in today's Army. So grab a dictonary and look between "Shit" and "syphilis" and you will find sympathy. Then pack your bags and set your mind on "standing a post".
(0)
Comment
(0)
Avatar small
1SG James Kelly
0
0
0
Desert.
(0)
Comment
(0)
Avatar small
SSG David Brandgard
0
0
0
Wow! That is some weak shit there! I'm trying to be sympathetic because I understand you want life to be the way you want it. You should not have re-enlisted. The army took care of you and held up its end. Stop whining and hold up your end. I expect it is just a year like Korea, Panama (was), hondo, and Sinai. Expand your horizons...see another part of the world so you can fully appreciate home. If you are wanting to get married...get married or wait until you get home. I don't see how you can have a hugely successful side business as a spc on active duty. Not talking shit, just looking realistically at your duty day, duty shifts, field time, etc. If you have managed to make it work so far, then you will be able to pick up where you leave off.
(0)
Comment
(0)
Avatar small
PO1 RIchard Petty
0
0
0
You sir need to put your "BIG BOY" pants on and do you job that you signed up for. You can finish your degree on line and let your customers know that you will be back for business once you finish your job in GTMO. It will be there once you finish your enlistment and your fiance will be there once you come back to states. Don't go to your career counselor or S-1 to get your orders canceled. I know several people in the Navy that have businesses and guess what they inform them what's going and be back in 10 months to continue on what they was doing. Just do your dam job and quit whining what you want to do.
(0)
Comment
(0)
Avatar small
CW2 Electronic Warfare Technician
0
0
0
Being an MP is one if those jobs that everyone pretty much cycles through Gitmo, like going to Bragg if you're ABN, Groton if you're a submariner, Augusta National for the Air and Space Forces...
(0)
Comment
(0)
Avatar small

Join nearly 2 million former and current members of the US military, just like you.

close