Posted on Dec 20, 2019
How did I get a "good" retirement year with <50 points?
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I'm new to the Army Reserve after spending the bulk of my career on active duty, and I could use some help interpreting my DA 5610, having never used it before. My very first entry was from when I was an ROTC/SMP cadet. It says I received 44 points (29 IDT + 15 membership) for a full year April 25-April 24. I didn't attend annual training that because as an ROTC cadet, I was sent to ROTC advanced camp for five weeks. However, despite having only 44 points for 365 days, it also lists that entry as "01 year" under the "qualifying for retirement" column.
I was under the impression that qualifying time should read "00 00 00" if I had less than 50 points for a full year. Am I reading this wrong that the "qualifying for retirement YRS MO DAYS" column isn't just for "good" years? Does anyone know if this is an error I need to have corrected or if there is some sort of exception that I may have been granted along the way? If there are exceptions to the "a full year of time needs 50 points" rule, can anyone enlighten me where I can find them in writing?
I was under the impression that qualifying time should read "00 00 00" if I had less than 50 points for a full year. Am I reading this wrong that the "qualifying for retirement YRS MO DAYS" column isn't just for "good" years? Does anyone know if this is an error I need to have corrected or if there is some sort of exception that I may have been granted along the way? If there are exceptions to the "a full year of time needs 50 points" rule, can anyone enlighten me where I can find them in writing?
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It doesn't matter what the record states now... it's what it says when you put in your 20 year letter... an office poggy can f everything up... take care of it now.... maybe get an official approval letter for that year... I have known others going through retirement nightmares... I'd be concerned with the 5 weeks...
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My thoughts exactly. Don’t get me wrong, I’d be happy to take the surprise early year of retirement if it turns out I expectedly earned it. But unless I can find something explaining what happened unequivocally or why there’s an exception it’s not worth the risk of messing up the whole retirement process.
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There must be something that protected you from having a bad year when you were at advanced camp not getting paid by the Army reserve.
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Were you enlisted when you entered the ROTC program and had completed IET? If so, I believe you fall under this rule. (2) In the case of an enlisted member of a Military Service who served as a cadet or
midshipman at a Service academy in accordance with chapters 403- 603- or 903 403,603 or 903
of Reference (c) but who did not receive or who does not hold a commission as an officer, the
service as a cadet or midshipman at a Service academy must be included and counted as
active duty. This is in DoD Instructions 1215.07
Did you get a 1059 for the period of your Advanced School?
Be aware that is has been over 20 years since I was S1.
midshipman at a Service academy in accordance with chapters 403- 603- or 903 403,603 or 903
of Reference (c) but who did not receive or who does not hold a commission as an officer, the
service as a cadet or midshipman at a Service academy must be included and counted as
active duty. This is in DoD Instructions 1215.07
Did you get a 1059 for the period of your Advanced School?
Be aware that is has been over 20 years since I was S1.
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LTC (Join to see)
Thanks for the references, I’ll be sure to take a look. No, I was straight off the street ROTC. Just before summer between my junior and senior years, I joined the VA national guard as a simultaneous membership program cadet as a “Cadet E-5.” My discharge from the guard calls the time in question “enlisted” but there was no IET and I never held a real enlisted rank. I joined in April, went to rotc camp June-July, and drilled once a month during the school year and through the end of year the next April (this was the end of the 44 point retirement year), and commissioned active duty in May.
You know, I’m not sure I did get a 1059 for the rotc camp- at least it’s not in my records now- but that may be worth looking for if it exists. I do remember some form of evaluation. Thanks for your help!
You know, I’m not sure I did get a 1059 for the rotc camp- at least it’s not in my records now- but that may be worth looking for if it exists. I do remember some form of evaluation. Thanks for your help!
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