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I am in Army ROTC, and constantly hear about how a lot of cadets who commission through ROTC end up being subpar 2LTs due to lack of experience, maturity, and humility. I know this isn't the case for every 2LT who commissions through ROTC, but I'm interested to see what qualities make a 'butter bar' stand out in a good or bad way
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Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen
Sounds like dorm common room talk to me. Once you get commissioned 99% of the people you encounter could care less about where or how you were commissioned. Do your job to the best of your ability and if tech school is involved in your MOS concentrate on acing that training. Above all listen to your NCOs and don't go down the I'm an officer so I'm right trap.
SPC Robin Price-Dirks
SPC Robin Price-Dirks
5 y
We had a butter bar ring knocker come to command our warehouse in FRG. His name was DeLeon. For the first couple of weeks we all teased him because he was younger than me and had no idea how a supply warehouse worked. He spent time learning from everybody and within just a few months he impressed everyone. He was a really nice guy to boot, took all the teasing in stride and laughed it all off.
Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen
Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen
5 y
SPC Robin Price-Dirks See, you trained him well! :-)
CPL Douglas Chrysler
When we assembled for AIT we first heard the CO was a recent ROTC graduate and this was his first command. We all had basic under our belts, so we had more active duty time than he. Our company was an experiment totaling 65 Infantry with cooks and supply staff. Old school Pentagon powers were sure we would fail, and that's why we were assigned someone with no experience. Wrong. He carried his weight and maintained strong discipline. We broke records for everything we qualified with and opened the gate to Tigerland. When it was done, the Lieutenant led us away from the graduation ceremony with the Commanding General's award attached to our Guidon.
His name: 2Lt Joseph Klemkowsky.
There's so much more I could say about this man, but there wouldn't be room for any more comments.
SGT Christopher Spellman
SGT Christopher Spellman
5 y
SFC Robert Walton My "claim to fame"? I made no claims. However, after having served as a VA-accredited service officer, I was beleaguered with the exaggerated stories from people like this. Discernment is not that difficult to learn.
SFC Robert Walton
SFC Robert Walton
5 y
SGT Christopher Spellman Yes your claim to fame your attitude that because he told his story that it is not to the level of believability, So you insult him and his story and era in service to feel better about your service. JMT
Sgt Steve Williams
Sgt Steve Williams
5 y
SGT Christopher Spellman you have a very active imagination to read this commrnt and then "know" what is on his head. Companies, platoons, squads, etc with solid leadership usually perform well in all their activities
LT Brad McInnis
I will tell you the only ones that care about where you graduate from are your fellow 2LT's. No one else cares, UNLESS you make it an issue. The only thing anyone really cares about is can you keep your mouth shut, your eyes and ears open, and do what needs to get done with a minimum of bs. That's it, nothing special. Learn your job and do it the best you can. Listen to those that have been around for awhile. Best of luck !

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