Posted on Aug 17, 2020
How do i upgrade my general under honourable conditions discharge to an honourable discharge? Will I have a better chance of reenlistment?
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I’m curious as to why you received a general discharge you’re only given as part of the information to work with to give you better guidance is there a reason why you received a general discharge instead of an honorable discharge?
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Same question here. It’s difficult to know the correct course of action to change something without ALL of the information given.
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SN Bill McFadden
Mine was for severe situation reaction and was way back in 1971and I have wondered about medical coverage with the VA being better
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25R discharged as aPV2 with a General UH conditions discharge.
Im interested in that backstory.
Im interested in that backstory.
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Suspended Profile
Soooo.....I figure by now that you know what your RE code is. How about an update.
Lol so much wrong going on here, save the recruiters time bro just move on with your life.
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I'm curious about your actual motive here. Private Thurman. If I'm reading through this correctly, you're post-basic training but never completed AIT, and the army is putting you out due to your behavior & performance issues.
What I can't tell is whether you really want to reenlist (frankly, your cavalier attitude about infantry rings false); whether you mostly want to gain access to veterans' benefits and "bragging rights," or whether you've just got a chapped ass and want to prove your CoC wrong.
Not trying to ride a high horse, here. I left after one hitch with an Honorable, but I left my follow-on enlistment in the National Guard with an RE-3 reenlistment code that I agreed to, as I figured I was all done with all that. Did not anticipate rejoining the service (Reserves) at 40, but I was glad to do it; there was a war or two on, and they were happy enough to have me. Did my bit, had my deployment, took care of my guys, got back out again and went back to civilian life.
You asked how to upgrade your discharge, but I think your real question is, "What do I do now?" The answer is that you are welcome to research, reach out, and line up resources to upgrade your discharge status. If you find a recruiter trying to make their numbers, they'll have a solid motive help you process a waiver of any code down to RE-3 in order to get you back in -- nobody will be MORE motivated to help you than a recruiter.
But I wouldn't spend all my time on that, if I were you. Whether or not you get back into uniform, you need to put the rest of the pieces in place to have a solid, rewarding life as a good man. You can do that in or out of service. Make yourself into a reliable, service-oriented, talented worker and someone will hire you for responsible work. That doesn't need to be the army, air force, navy, marines, coast guard, etc. There are plenty of ways to prove yourself to the world, and to yourself.
In other words, while you may succeed at upgrading your "report card" where you did not succeed in the "classroom," maybe you shouldn't put all your eggs in one basket. You already pooped in that basket, and it's a big chore to clean the grass.
What I can't tell is whether you really want to reenlist (frankly, your cavalier attitude about infantry rings false); whether you mostly want to gain access to veterans' benefits and "bragging rights," or whether you've just got a chapped ass and want to prove your CoC wrong.
Not trying to ride a high horse, here. I left after one hitch with an Honorable, but I left my follow-on enlistment in the National Guard with an RE-3 reenlistment code that I agreed to, as I figured I was all done with all that. Did not anticipate rejoining the service (Reserves) at 40, but I was glad to do it; there was a war or two on, and they were happy enough to have me. Did my bit, had my deployment, took care of my guys, got back out again and went back to civilian life.
You asked how to upgrade your discharge, but I think your real question is, "What do I do now?" The answer is that you are welcome to research, reach out, and line up resources to upgrade your discharge status. If you find a recruiter trying to make their numbers, they'll have a solid motive help you process a waiver of any code down to RE-3 in order to get you back in -- nobody will be MORE motivated to help you than a recruiter.
But I wouldn't spend all my time on that, if I were you. Whether or not you get back into uniform, you need to put the rest of the pieces in place to have a solid, rewarding life as a good man. You can do that in or out of service. Make yourself into a reliable, service-oriented, talented worker and someone will hire you for responsible work. That doesn't need to be the army, air force, navy, marines, coast guard, etc. There are plenty of ways to prove yourself to the world, and to yourself.
In other words, while you may succeed at upgrading your "report card" where you did not succeed in the "classroom," maybe you shouldn't put all your eggs in one basket. You already pooped in that basket, and it's a big chore to clean the grass.
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I received a General Under Honorable (from the Army) in 1970, in a very unusual case for the time. I left Vietnam on May 22, and due to the dateline change ETSed in San Francisco the same day. It has never bothered me; no prospective employer has ever turned me down because of it. I was able to use all my G.I. Bill educational benefits. The VFW cherrfully accepted me, 30-some years ago, though I don't drink or socialize with them any more.
I was once oversprayed by AO while on a patrol, but luckily I have never had one of the diseases it causes (though 40-odd years later my daughter may have been affected). I have never asked for a GI Bill loan or any other money benefit; I always busted my ass as a civilian working man, and never have needed or requested any money whatsoever from the governmment due to my service.
The key word is "Honorable." The 7-officer Administrative Board that I appealed to for retention decided I would be terminated for regulation 212-257, having "outed" myself as bisexual. I had told my company CO I had missed a formation because I had been sleeping with a fellow GI. The Board knew I was an honorable enlisted man, after the testimony of several officers and high-ranking NCOs. My grandfathers fought in the Spanish-American War and WWI respectively; my father, two uncles and an aunt all fought the Nazis in WW11. We have been patriots since the American Revolution.
Today, there would have been no problem, and I would never have been discharged. The Board went by the rules as they were written then, and although at the time I wanted to stay in the Army, I knew they bore me no ill will by discharging me. A General Under Honoiorable Discharge is NOT "other-than-honorable" (like a UD, BCD or DD). If you were not given a post-service classification 4-R, you can re-enlist.
I'm a helluva lot more honorable than these "Oath-Keepers," "Proud Boys" and "Three Percenters." Every damn one of them in the Jan.6, 2021 insurrection, no matter whether they received a "full" Honorable Discharge, no matter if they got Silver Stars or Purple Hearts, shoulld lose all post-service benefits. Bleep them!
I was once oversprayed by AO while on a patrol, but luckily I have never had one of the diseases it causes (though 40-odd years later my daughter may have been affected). I have never asked for a GI Bill loan or any other money benefit; I always busted my ass as a civilian working man, and never have needed or requested any money whatsoever from the governmment due to my service.
The key word is "Honorable." The 7-officer Administrative Board that I appealed to for retention decided I would be terminated for regulation 212-257, having "outed" myself as bisexual. I had told my company CO I had missed a formation because I had been sleeping with a fellow GI. The Board knew I was an honorable enlisted man, after the testimony of several officers and high-ranking NCOs. My grandfathers fought in the Spanish-American War and WWI respectively; my father, two uncles and an aunt all fought the Nazis in WW11. We have been patriots since the American Revolution.
Today, there would have been no problem, and I would never have been discharged. The Board went by the rules as they were written then, and although at the time I wanted to stay in the Army, I knew they bore me no ill will by discharging me. A General Under Honoiorable Discharge is NOT "other-than-honorable" (like a UD, BCD or DD). If you were not given a post-service classification 4-R, you can re-enlist.
I'm a helluva lot more honorable than these "Oath-Keepers," "Proud Boys" and "Three Percenters." Every damn one of them in the Jan.6, 2021 insurrection, no matter whether they received a "full" Honorable Discharge, no matter if they got Silver Stars or Purple Hearts, shoulld lose all post-service benefits. Bleep them!
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I deserved mine and I moved on. I had a Jody situation happen and I lost my focus and screwed up my life a little. It could have been worse and I'm glad I received what I did. As others have stated, it's more than likely not going to be updated unless there was some sort of unfairness or error. I could have cried psych issues and tried for a medical but I didn't. There's others that deserve that and thats taking something away from someone else.
I accepted and learned from my mistake, I take pride that I did choose to serve, and I've found other avenues to succeed. As far as employment, it's never been called into question honestly and if it is for you, just be honest.
I accepted and learned from my mistake, I take pride that I did choose to serve, and I've found other avenues to succeed. As far as employment, it's never been called into question honestly and if it is for you, just be honest.
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You don't up grade a General Discharge after receiving it. It is upgraded to an Honorable after 6 months, but you have to request it. This can be through the VA I believe. For reenlistment there is a RE Code 1 through 4. Reenlistment codes 1 through 3 can be wavered and all depends on your SPIN Code. If you have a RE 4, forget it, your done unless you want to join the National Guard. They have a different criteria. If you want more information on the codes, go here. https://www.thebalancecareers.com/military-separation-codes-3356946
A recruiter can help you with this on your SPIN Code/s.
A recruiter can help you with this on your SPIN Code/s.
Complete List of Military Separation Codes
These codes are contained in your military records and may be annotated on various military separation documents, but aren't always explained.
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Let’s be real. If you couldn’t manage an honorable discharge the first time through, the Army doesn’t need you.
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PV2 (Join to see)
Cuz they need u, right sgt? Everyone is replaceable so get off your high horse prick.
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SGT Benjamin Parsons
Get off my high horse? You mean come down to your level? You’re right about almost everyone being replaceable though. Dudes who can manage honorable discharges are replaceable. You’re not in demand, bud.
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