Posted on Jul 24, 2019
How do you all feel about leaders who do not show up for PT?
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This must be an MP thing. Everywhere I've been the leaders do PT. In the 82nd, the Division Commander and CSM were out on Ardennes Street every day. You can guarantee that if they were there, so was every Brigade and Battalion CSM and Commander, all the way down to the Platoon Sergeants and Platoon Leaders. When I worked at SF Group, the Battalion CSM and Commander were out doing PT every day, and the ODA team captains were doing PT with their teams. Even here in my Stryker Infantry Battalion you can see all the leadership doing PT with their own people. It's what builds unit cohesion. The CSM and Commander are out there running around with their Soldiers, doing PT with different groups on different days. There is no such thing as "leaders are too busy". Either everyone is busy and the whole platoon is working, or everyone is available and the platoon/squad/team are doing PT together. I think if ever one of our leaders tried that excuse of being too busy, their immediate commander would check that behavior quickly.
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I always did. Some of my bosses did. In fact, if I had a troop failing weight or fitness standards, we worked out together 3 days a week.
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CW4 Craig Urban
I was given a waiver from my battalion commander at AFCENT in 1985. Why? I had maxed 49 out 50. One I missed was a 298. A new fitness center was being built. So LTC Joe Moffett asked me if I played racquetball. I said a little bit. Good he said, for the grand opening we can play a match. He did not not know that back in the US at Cameron station I went to the army trials 7 year running. Well, it is a week to the opening. I said why don't we go check out the court? About 2 PM tomorrow. He says good idea. So the fitness center is empty except for the dutch manager, who is practicing on court one. His name was Gerry Von De Kluet. Ex Dutch marine. So he stops and starts watching us play. 15-0. 15.0 15.0 in 15 minutes. He is sucking wind. He says a little bit chief. I am all army Joe. I did not want to embarrass you on the grand opening. So the next day I write up a policy letter waiving me from coming in at 0600 to do PT. I still take the test. I maxed the next 10 before I retired.
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I was always there, no matter what...I will admit, I needed it. As for other Senior Leaders, I think they were trying to hide the fact, they weren't as strong in their PT as they portrayed. Soldiers will over look that you're not as strong as the younger soldiers are, because of your age. Let's admit it guys and gals, age will catch up to you...and yes, my units also had several 40-something Supermen, who can put a 17 y.o. to shame, but that wasn't the norm.
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