Posted on Jan 26, 2016
How do you Become a 38G CA Functional Specialist?
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If you are not aware, there is a new specialty branch being formed in Civil Affairs called 38G Functional Specialist. These MTOE slots will be reserved for those of us with civilian education and experience to perform professional skills in a combat zone. Boards are being held quarterly on 17 Feb, 18 May, and 17 Aug of FY16. Details are in MILPER message 15-403. What are your questions?
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Thank you sir for starting this discussion on 38G. I am also happy to field questions and/or provide information on the 38G program.
Doug Hurst
Colonel, Civil Affairs
The Institute for Military Support to Governance
U.S. Army JFK Special Warfare Center and School
Building 1-4865, Knox Street
Fort Bragg, North Carolina 28310
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Doug Hurst
Colonel, Civil Affairs
The Institute for Military Support to Governance
U.S. Army JFK Special Warfare Center and School
Building 1-4865, Knox Street
Fort Bragg, North Carolina 28310
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COL Douglas Hurst - Sir,
Can I get a copy of the MILPER detailing the 'new' process? email= [login to see]
Can I get a copy of the MILPER detailing the 'new' process? email= [login to see]
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Sir, I just joined a CA unit and am interested in the 38G Track. I have been a police officer for 12 years but have a BS in psychology. Will the BS in psych meet the related education requirement for the 6H Public Safety Functional Specialty?
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Also, has a current MILPER (2018) been published for a board? I cannot locate one.
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Sir, I'm interested in possibly pursuing 38G (public health/public safety). I do not have access to MILPER 150-403 as I'm currently in civilian status. May I ask your assistance in obtaining more information?
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2LT Jason Messmer - LT Messmer, from my experience as a former unit administrator, you will need to get a DD Form 368, conditional release from your unit, and then work through your branch manager at HRC to move you from ARNG to USAR.
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BG (Join to see)
2LT Messmer - I don't know why you couldn't apply to the board, get awarded the Branch and then initiate transfer to a CA unit. COL Hurst can probably say if there is anything wrong with that COA.
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BG (Join to see)
2LT Jason Messmer - I am not sure about obligations to the NG, but they do need to approve our transfer so not having an obligation would certainly help. Whoop!
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BG (Join to see)
2LT Jason Messmer - Jason, you can come over as an O-2, but we can't send you to CCC until you have one year TIG. You should also consider what CCC Course you want to attend. If you are set on going CA than I think it makes more sense to attend the CA CCC, not FA.
I don't know anyone who has qualified for multiple skill identifiers in 38G but that doesn't mean you can't - you could be the first!
38G is for functional specialties only. If you want to command, then you should go 38A.
I don't know anyone who has qualified for multiple skill identifiers in 38G but that doesn't mean you can't - you could be the first!
38G is for functional specialties only. If you want to command, then you should go 38A.
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Sir I'm a 38A will this new branch include those that are already CA. I'm a current educator with a Ph.D.
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BG (Join to see)
Our MTOEs change next Sep. to have both 38A and 38G slots. All the current 38A positions that have an ASI (such as Public Education Officer) will change to 38G. You can be both a 38A and a 38G so it behooves you to get both and have max opportunity to fill a slot.
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Roger I have the Public Ed ASI, I'm coming out of command in March and I will definitely put in a packet. Thanks Sir
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Is there still a discussion of opening this up to civilians as a direct commission? I would be very interested in Cultural Heritage Preservation. I have a Bachelor of Arts and a Master of Science in Anthropology, and will hopefully begin working on my PhD in 2018. I also have a background working as a historic researcher at a university, and I have federal law enforcement training (National Park Service).
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BG (Join to see)
Still no movement on this as far as I know. It would be great if they can get this authorized. I'll broadcast it here if this is approved.
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Shawn Moore
Thanks BG, I'm in a similar boat, so any info you have would be much appreciated. I have a Masters degree in International Affairs and Global Enterprise, fluent in multiple languages and ran an international humanitarian organization for years. Thanks for your help!
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Are they still considering opening this up to civilians? I have the civilian experience, am not currently military, but looking to join for this specific role.
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Keith P
I don't know if you're still looking, but 38G is currently open to civilians. Sounds like you would be competitive. https://www.usar.army.mil/Commands/Functional/USACAPOC/38G-Program/38G-Candidate-Information/
38G Candidate Information
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I expect the real benefit of this initiative will be a renewed sense of importance for civilian skills that will enable USAR Civil Affairs to realize its full potential. My Battalion in particular is placing more emphasis on building an enabling Functional Specialty team with well qualified 38G and other professionals. But what's most important from my point of view, and an opinion shared by COL (Join to see) in his War College paper on CA Functional Specialists, is a concerted and deliberate recruiting effort supported by all levels of command to invest in the Functional Specialty teams. Individual Battalions will likely struggle to recruit independently.
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Sir, Thank you where can I get more information on the 38G, I am now medically retired but know of individuals with the educations and experience that are thinking about joining; there are a few here that I have advice to look into CA.
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BG (Join to see)
Here is the gist of the 38G specialty:
THE MILITARY GOVERNMENT OFFICER MUST POSSESS EXPERTISE IN CIVILIAN CORE
COMPETENCIES, REPRESENTED BY A CIVIL AFFAIRS RELATED SKILL IDENTIFIER (SI) PARAGRAPH 5, THAT SUPPORT ONE OF THE SPECIALTIES RELATED TO THE FUNCTIONS OF PUBLIC SAFETY, PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION, PUBLIC
WORKS/INFRASTRUCTURE, ECONOMICS AND COMMERCE, AND PUBLIC EDUCATION AND INFORMATION. THEY ARE EXPECTED TO UNDERSTAND HOW TO UTILIZE THE CHARACTERISTICS OF THEIR CIVILIAN SKILLS TO ASSIST IN THE ACCOMPLISHMENT OF THE CORE CA TASKS IN ALL OPERATIONAL ENVIRONMENTS.
The Milper message 15-403 has all the details for applying or you can email me and I will send it to you. [login to see]
THE MILITARY GOVERNMENT OFFICER MUST POSSESS EXPERTISE IN CIVILIAN CORE
COMPETENCIES, REPRESENTED BY A CIVIL AFFAIRS RELATED SKILL IDENTIFIER (SI) PARAGRAPH 5, THAT SUPPORT ONE OF THE SPECIALTIES RELATED TO THE FUNCTIONS OF PUBLIC SAFETY, PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION, PUBLIC
WORKS/INFRASTRUCTURE, ECONOMICS AND COMMERCE, AND PUBLIC EDUCATION AND INFORMATION. THEY ARE EXPECTED TO UNDERSTAND HOW TO UTILIZE THE CHARACTERISTICS OF THEIR CIVILIAN SKILLS TO ASSIST IN THE ACCOMPLISHMENT OF THE CORE CA TASKS IN ALL OPERATIONAL ENVIRONMENTS.
The Milper message 15-403 has all the details for applying or you can email me and I will send it to you. [login to see]
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CPT Pedro Meza
BG (Join to see) - Sir, I will reach out to those here that I know will be interested, that also includes my niece who is a CPT with a Public Affairs Reserve unit at Bell California, deployed twice to Iraq.
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I am very interested in the 38G 6D MOS for I have an extensive background in public education (14yrs). Also can someone please share some insight about a DA or WOC for this same MOS. Finally is there a current POC for the above mentioned MOS? Thank you
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Will Officers selected need to attend SOF CCC and go through the CA pathway at Bragg? Or are they fully branch qualified once selected?
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BG (Join to see)
Kevin - Officers are branch qualified only after they complete the CA Qualification Course. This course is nine weeks for AC and four weeks for RC. The CCC course for CA officers is the CA/PO CCC. SF have a separate course.
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Sir, Very interested in obtaining the 38G ASI. Now a LTC, I completed CAOAC in 1999, have deployed with CA to OEF-AF and have a UT Austin MBA with 10+ years experience in economics as well as significant experience in transportation management. Do you what the dates for the next board might be? Grateful for any information and POCs. Thank you sir. v/r William Kruft
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