Posted on Dec 10, 2015
SFC AH-64 Attack Helicopter Repairer
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An NCO that everyone is afraid to tell on. Screams at his soldiers and fellow NCOs. Belittles people. Keeps his Soldiers late at work for no reason. The list can go on. Everyone has had an experience like this, where you either grow with a peer and see them become toxic, or get to a unit where the toxicity already exists. If you're trying to remain professional with said unprofessional, what would you do?
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SSG Thomas Gallegos
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First and foremost always go above and beyond what this individual is doing. Your post tells me it's not hard to do.
Do not bad mouth him/her because that does nothing for you. If the command is allowing it there is not much you can do other than deal with it
I see you tagged EO so that may be a path. Create a log of any personal interaction with this NCO.
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SSG Audwin Scott
SSG Audwin Scott
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Well said Staff!
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SSG Jeffery Nebel
SSG Jeffery Nebel
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Let me expand on what SSG Gallegos stated. Write down your interactions with this soldier, good or bad. Ask if there is anything you as an NCO can assist with. I've found that just talking to someone (in this case, talking off-line would be ideal) will help.
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SPC Stacey Lowell
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I had an NCO just like that. He was a SSG just off of recruiter status and I had just returned from Panama - Operation Just Cause - and before I had the computer set up and running he comes bitching to me about a memorandum that was due like three days ago. And for some reason he struck me (I was an E-4) and I cleaned his clock and wound up on the psych unit at Baynes-Jones Army Community Hospital at Fort Polk. Suffice to say, the NCO was done for and I was done for as well diagnosed with PTSD and a couple other things which sent me to a medical board and a medical discharge. I stayed in Louisiana for about 5 years and I wound up going to church one Sunday and ran into said former SSG. The meeting was not pleasant, and so I sold off my VEAP so I could pack and leave the state for good. I hadn't had a bad day since.
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SPC Stacey Lowell
SPC Stacey Lowell
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I should say here, that one should never be afraid to turn in a bad NCO. Some NCOs are better than others and the last I checked the US Army still desires a cohesive force where everyone at l;east works well together for the most part..
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SFC AH-64 Attack Helicopter Repairer
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I'm sorry to hear about your experience with said individual. Also thank you for sharing this.
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SPC Stacey Lowell
SPC Stacey Lowell
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No Worries. Am pleased to speak my mind these days. Was not so easy to speak said mind in 1990...
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SFC Senior Drill Sergeant
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I'm TPU, but I perform Military Funerals during the week. All 70 funerals I've completed so far this year have been two-man details. We go to cemeteries, churches, funeral homes, etc. As soldiers we are expected to be professional and should be able to supervise ourselves. Most of the soldiers I work with are competent, but I've worked with several ate up senior NCOs and officers. Generally, it's uniform violations, often items on the ASU just not positioned correctly. However, I've seen soldiers come to funerals in their ASUs wearing do-rags, knitted beanies, earbuds hanging out of their shirts. I've had a LTC (O-5) trying to add in his own material to the funeral which is a violation FM 3-21.5. I had an E-7 scrap mud off his shoes onto someone random person's tombstone right in front of the funeral procession. I know 'how' to professionally and politely tell someone that they're ate up, but as a new NCO, admittedly I'm still intimidated to tell an O-5 they're wrong. This week I printed out relevant AR and FM (AR 670-1, AR 600-25, and FM 3-21.5) to study and keep in my leadership binder that I bring to funerals. Instead of telling them, "I 'think' that's against Army AR," I can confidently tell them, " That 'IS' against Army AR," the next time I see someone jacked up.
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SSG Military Police
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Its all in the approach SGT.. When i was a young SGT, I was the true definition of a "buck' SGT.. my SFC pulled me off to the side and told me this. There are 2 types of NCO's Asshole and mentors.. an asshole is remembered because he is an asshole. A mentor is remembered because his soldiers want to be the type of leader he is. Choose your path wisely.. asshole or mentor.. You can make a correction to a COL's uniform simply by saying something like .. Sir, is that in the correct order.. it looks out of place.. let me check it for you..It gives them the chance to back out gracefully..
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SSG John Caples
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That Nco is not a Professional and he use's his bullying techniques to get his soldiers to not see, he does not know his job, and how to do it. Piss poor management. The Nco needs a serious talk to
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PO3 Electrician's Mate
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Just challenge him like a recruits in boot camp :P That worked very well for me ... for now.
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SSG Instructor/Writer
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I pictured an NCO that outranks you when I read the subject header. That's tough to deal with. Same rank or lesser, pull him aside and lay it out to them. If they can't take criticism, then find more like minded individuals and have an intervention.
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SSG Audwin Scott
SSG Audwin Scott
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I agree same rank they are going to here it from me, higher rank well let's just say I knew how to get them alone one on one and say what I had to say, my word against there's and believe it or not it actually worked 3 times in my career.
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SSG Antonio Borden
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It is your duty to report this NC to his COC. Nothing boils my blood more than to see a soldier being abused and belittled. Do everything you can to get that NC counseled and/or reprimanded. When things become toxic or you arrive to a unit where everything is toxic, you may want to find another duty station/assignment. If the COC doesn't act on correcting that NCO, then you know that you have your marching orders. Always do the right thing and what's best for the Army. I trust that you will brother. God Speed.
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SSG Nick Moler
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IG and don't be afraid to use your chain of command it goes all the way to the top mot just your company command !
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SSG Multichannel Transmission Systems Operator/Maintainer
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Hold him to the standard. It's easier said than done, but I agree with a majority of the comments below: pull him aside and professionally talk to him. If he's that volatile, have someone of higher rank there with you to mediate.
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SFC Bryson Amaral
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Counsel him, remind him of the NCO creed which he has forgotten. Counsel him again. Make sure it's written on paper. Or some good ole wall to wall counseling to set him straight
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