Posted on Dec 2, 2014
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I read tonight where Congress has agreed to cut military pay, BAH, etc. How do you feel about this?

http://www.military.com/daily-news/2014/12/02/congress-agrees-to-troop-pay-bah-cuts-in-budget-compromise.html
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SSG (ret) William Martin
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I'd love for every service member to give a dollar a month to lobbyist so they can have more than enough money to fight for our benefit and while I know organizations like AUSA does things like this, but it seems like the only thing that congress understands are dollar signs and how much you have of it.
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Very true SSG
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PO1 Disaster Survivor Assistance Specialist
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While the idea may be tempting....I'm not exactly sure of the legality of openly paying a lobbyist by AD members. However, having the VFW, etc lobby congress quite legally and it's ongoing - plus there are millions of veterans involved, not just the Army.
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PO1 Disaster Survivor Assistance Specialist
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Edited 11 y ago
NOW HEAR THIS!

THIS is precisely why YOU need to join one of the many Veteran Service Organizations (VFW, DAV, American Legion, etc) to get your voice heard! Trust me, you can write all the letters and make all the phone calls - assuming you have the right numbers and addresses. Imagine having the ability to make YOUR voice, whether active duty, retired or veteran, HEARD very clearly and very loudly in Congress!!!! Imagine your choice of Veteran Service Organization (VSO's) having the ability to sit down with a Congressional Committee and hear them say: "Mr Chairman, I have heard the voice of the members of my organization - all 6 million of them - and here is what they want YOU to hear from me........". Or even better, have access to a legislative committee member thru your VSO?

Getting Congress to HEAR YOUR VOICE thru your VSO is legal - even on active duty.

Just another reason to make the decision to have your voice heard.......

Off soapbox....resume the big suck.....
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SSgt Carpenter
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Disappointing for sure, 1SG, but I'd still rather be underpaid than undertrained. Though with sequestration, I can see that coming too.
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SGT,
Untrained is something you'll never be.... We are still the best trained Army in the world because of NCOs! just because we don't have money has never stopped my soldiers from training.
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SSgt Carpenter
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I feel I may have been misunderstood. I intended to say that while I don't like Congress screwing with our pay, I'd rather they screw with that than funds appropriated for training. Because training is the only reason for the Army to exist. I understand that we can and must train whether we have funds to facilitate it or not. Quality training does get harder to come by, however. I hope I've clarified myself.
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1SG Brigade Security Manager
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I understand your statement I am just saying don't worry about the funds just lead!
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SSgt Forensic Meteorological Consultant
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I think there is a political war going on with POTUS and both sides are playing hardball and they will not be affected by it. The bad thing is that when Bills are reconciled, some ugly things remain and without line item veto, then it becomes political. The good thing is to get through the first of the year and stop illegal immigration, because that money could be used for Military pay.

We all this money to get votes and no money for the ones who served this great country? Is this a cut pay or a cut in the increase? I am not sure....
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SSG(P) Ncoic
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They do it because we allow it. How many of us write to our congressman, vote and or lobby for military benefits. Do we even have lobbyist who are persistent and fight for our cause? I believe if we had a local, state and federal presence on all fronts then things would change. Please be nice in your comments if you disagree.
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SSG Retired
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Perhaps Congress needs to look in a mirror. Do they deserve all the entitlements they have? Do they need such large staffs in their home areas and in Washington?

I'd like to see the leadership of both houses try and survive on a Sergeants pay; and live in military housing.
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I do not think we should taking the cuts out of military personnel first. There are other areas that can take cuts long before we can. Like maybe Congress itself for one thing, all their little pet projects and agendas that they always have when they enter office, not to mention their "retirement" plans they get after few years. Most of them end up with speaking engagements, books, or job offers after (if they ever leave) office. I understand the need for them to find money but do they really need to start with us first? Especially since the current President seems hellbent on starting/get us involved in a new conflict where we are completely unsure what it will evolve into.
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SSG Flight Medic
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SSgt L OI it seems like more of a cut in increase. The issue I have is the proposed increase in pay is roughly 1% behind the average increase in salary for civilians and 2% behind inflation costs. Not the mention they are proposing to cut BAH by another 1% with the option to cut more in the coming years. As this is supposedly some great compromise it makes me feel misrepresented and undervalued by not only my president but the congressional leaders I'm trusting to look after my great interest. Cutting funding to soldiers makes the lives of their families more difficult. And with the continued draw down in BAH married soldiers might have to start paying out of pocket for housing. Do my get me wrong I don't serve for the pay but I have to be able to provide for my family and I'm not sure that'll be easy if we keep seeing this trend
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PFC Aaron Knapp
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This along with many other decesions is just another way of showing the current governments desire to slowly reduce troop levels. This is typicall of a post war society. Just like the late 90s after first gulf war. Sad but true..
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