Posted on Dec 31, 2013
CPL Paul B.
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During the Army's current downsizing, they are also modifying their PT program. This modification has been going through years and years of work. What is everyone's feelings on it? How can we make it better for everyone?
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SGM Matthew Quick
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APRT works when leadership is involved and done correctly.
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SPC Charles Brown
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In regard to the Army promotion points issue, I have served on active duty from 1979-1982 and from 1999-2002, and can remember when you needed to pass a skills qualification test to earn promotion points with the emphasis being on MOS knowledge. It seems now that their is too much emphasis being placed on the ability of non infantry personnel to fire expert and score 100 points or more on each of the events of the pt tests. I am not against being physically fit, but when you are someone who tries their best to reach a score that for some is unreachable and fall short of the goal they are looked down on by some infantrymen as not being worth the air they breathe. Promotions should be awarded on a soldiers ability to perform their duties rather on whether or not they can max out a pt test or fire expert. If this were the case I may still be in the service of my country!
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SSG Pod Load Technician
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100% agree.  Ive encountered senior NCO's who didnt know their respective MOS's.  Not even the basics
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MSG Psychological Operations Specialist
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From my experience during PT my unit would do the PRT preparation drill at the beginning of PT.  We have never done all 10 exercises in a row, or any exercise in the correct order or cadence.  Once we move into the rest of our PT we wind up with anaerobic exercises even when we are on a "muscle building" day where we should be aerobic.  Our only aerobic day is our ruck-march days.  Once we finish PT we don't lower our heart rates, we don't do the recovery drills, we just stretch the muscle groups that we worked that day, typically stretches from 21-20.  FM 7-22 is not enforced at all.  Basically nobody cares.  Its a big gray area too.  I mentioned the next time I am called out to lead PT that I was going to do a full-blown PRT cardio day by the book and the advice I was given was that "it wouldn't be a good idea to do that".  Essentially I would be wrong for doing the right thing!
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MSG Psychological Operations Specialist
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Also, I'm under the impression units are supposed to have a "recovery PT" program that soldiers with profiles are supposed to transition to once the profile expires.  We don't have that.  Soldiers with a profile for any amount of time are expected to join up with the platoon immediately after the profile expires and then run our typical 20+ miles per week.  They usually wind up on profile again, and it seems like nobody understands why.  Sooner or later that soldier gets labeled as a "Sh**bag" because they can't get their issue resolved.
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SGT 94 E Radio Comsec Repairer
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SGT Reno, I've noticed the same thing.  

FYI, I think you may have aerobic and anaerobic mixed up.  Aerobic would be cardio type exercises and anaerobic would be muscular endurance exercises.
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MSG Psychological Operations Specialist
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SPC T - You are absolutely right!  Thanks!
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