Posted on Dec 20, 2018
How do you feel about the decision to pull American troops out of Syria?
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It is a waste of lives,money and time being there.We or no one else will never stop them from fighting as history has shown.Hundreds of years of fighting each other.Many presidents have tried and failed as well as this president.Those people do not even like us.They like our money only.I say other countries should close their borders and keep them in their own countries and let them work things out.Just keep it from spreading.Why should our troops die for countries that hate us?
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Mixed feelings. On one hand, I believe the same issues following Obama's withdrawl from Iraq probably will occur. On the other hand, what is the end game? How long do we stay there? The Middle East has been a black hole my entire life. Same with Afghanistan (probably worse because that's been a bottomless pit for armies for 2,500 years). What pisses me off is all of the political flip flopping. If Pres. Trump said he was going to surge Syria and send more troops, the same that think he's pulling out too early would be critical that he was staying. (and vice versa)
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SGT Joseph Gunderson
So far, I think this is the best answer. I definitely think about it along similar lines. "Mixed bag" is probably the only 'accurate' way to put it.
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PO1 Don Gulizia
SGT Joseph Gunderson - I would be more for staying if there was an objective that hasn't been accomplished that could be finished. If the arguement is that we need to stay to protect the Kurds...well, how long is that going to take? The only way to do that is to cut out a Kurdish nation of their own and build/man a U.S. militiary base for the next 100 years. Is that what the critics want? I'm sure Turkey, Syria, and Iraq are more than willing to give up some land.
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SGT Gunderson, I say with humor: you know better than to ask military personnel and veterans about "feelings".
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SGT Joseph Gunderson - I think you will find the further you go in higher education that feel, think, believe all have important distinctions.
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SGT Joseph Gunderson
CPT (Join to see) - oh I know, however, this forum isn't exactly a group of academic scholars is it? Nor is this a discussion in which it would be inappropriate or unprofessional to use such terms.
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no, it's not an academic forum SGT Joseph Gunderson, I don't find the question inappropriate or unprofessional in the least. Nor do I split hairs over the differences between officers and enlisted or am I trying to belittle your intellect or debate.
I usually find that I learn more from people who are not scholars than from people that are scholars.
I usually find that I learn more from people who are not scholars than from people that are scholars.
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CPT (Join to see)
I guess what I am trying to say is if I wanted to talk about my feelings, I'd go to a psychiatrist or counselor
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That situation is complex. If ISIS is no longer a threat, then fine. I am not privy to that intel so I cannot say for sure. ISIS was our mess to clean up so I am cool with us being there for that. The Syrian Civil War is not our concern so we need to stay out of it. The issue is that the lines get blurred between the two.
I think generally speaking, we need to avoid prolonged foreign conflicts. I haven't seen any identifiable benefit to staying engaged this long. Maybe I just don't have access to that information, but from where I sit, we are just expending resources for no good reason. The other thing is, I think we need to get our own house in order before we start trying to get others' in order.
I think generally speaking, we need to avoid prolonged foreign conflicts. I haven't seen any identifiable benefit to staying engaged this long. Maybe I just don't have access to that information, but from where I sit, we are just expending resources for no good reason. The other thing is, I think we need to get our own house in order before we start trying to get others' in order.
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ISIS is still a threat, according to the experts as late as last week.
The benefit is the kill them, and dismantle their capabilities.
Isolationism was tried, and failed. We can fight them there, or suffer the consequences here, and where our military is deployed worldwide. Instead, the decision is to withdraw, and permit them to ready for the next 9-11.
The benefit is the kill them, and dismantle their capabilities.
Isolationism was tried, and failed. We can fight them there, or suffer the consequences here, and where our military is deployed worldwide. Instead, the decision is to withdraw, and permit them to ready for the next 9-11.
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I'm a staunch supporter of President Trump, but I think he's wrong. SECDEF Mattis is very experienced and Trump should listen to him because he's hands down his best adviser.
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SSG(P) (Join to see)
SPC Anthony Schepis how about you explain why you downvoted me instead of childishly voting me down due to your hurt feelings.
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Maybe we should let NATO to do some of the heavy lifting for a change.
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Mixed. Stability in the region is a bit tenuous right now. I do think, however, that long term occupation in the Middle East needs to scale down. Syria is a civil war. I think we should support only.
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We dropped the ball totally in the region. Even the Roman Empire crashed not from Western Barbarians but screwing around in the Middle East . We would have saved a lot of grief by stopping in Iraq after triumphantly rolling into Baghdad, Then telling the commanders of the 14 fully intact Iraqi divisions still left that they needed to take over , keep the infrastructure intact and then withdraw back to Kuwait with a reminder if they wanted to play games we can easily kick their ass again. We would have avoided the contempt bred for us by familiarity. We win battles well but we suck at making little images of ourselves all around the world.
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SSG Greg Miech
The Roman Empire only wanted to conquer and tax the middle east and search for mythical items. Everyone thinks this is WWII again without a Marshall Plan. If they were at peace the corruption and culture structure of the tribes over national or local government. Sadly, the only success at a "Peace" to a point has been by ruthless rulers like the Shah of Iran. When they were week, like Iraqi king (Forgot his name) they were overthrown. Even when Kaddafi got week he was overthrown with help.
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Has anyone asked what the end game is? Funny, all we usually hear from the Left is “What’s our exit strategy?” They would be asking this sometimes even before we put the first pair of boots on the ground. I look at it this way, Syria doesn’t want us there. Syria is Iran’s lap dog and by extension, Russia’s. Regardless of what happens, Iran and Russia will back-up Assad with money and weapons. So we are fighting ISIS..yay. What happens when ISIS is defeated? We can’t stay. What ISIS remains is the problem of Syria (and the problem of Iran and Russia). As for the factions fighting to overthrow Assad...did Trump say anything about no longer supporting them? If he did, I missed that part. I did catch the part where he said we would use Iraq as a base for striking targets in Syria. Just how many troops did we have in Syria? Was 2000 it? That’s a lot fighting in another country that we are not allied with, don’t have any sort of agreement with but no where near enough to over throw it.
Now, unless the Left starts explaining WHY our troops should have stayed and what they want to see accomplished, I will go with Trump on this at this time.
Now, unless the Left starts explaining WHY our troops should have stayed and what they want to see accomplished, I will go with Trump on this at this time.
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We have never had anything to gain from the fight in Syria (or Iraq or any of the other Mideast countries) and 16 years of war is well beyond long enough. If we weren't going to finish it then we should have never started it.
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