Posted on Apr 13, 2015
MAJ Multifunctional Logistician
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I have talked to Soldiers of various ranks and overall there is a feeling the discipline is falling. Can we begin to reverse this trend by reinstating Drill Sergeants in AITs? Do you think Soldiers are developing the needed discipline quick enough at their initial duty stations?
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We need better train NCOs in AIT to lead those troops. AIT Platoon Sergeants are there now and until last September they only went through a two course to do the same job a Drill Segeant that went through a nine week course did. It also depends on the Command team in the AIT that approves all the privileges Soldiers receive. When Drill Sergeants was there they typically had 12 per company now on average its 7 AIT Platoon Sergeants. They go through a six week course now and receive better training but does not stop on AIT. If we need to reverse course and bring back Drill Segeants then how do we fix the young E-4 in the unit that's been there for two years that can't still pass an APFT or the NCO that gets a DUI. Should we bring Drill Sergeants to the operation Army to fix every discipline issue. I say no, we need to do a better job across the board to enforce standards and discipline across the Army. Sooner or later the hat and badge will come off what happens then discipline disappears. We need competent NCOs in AIT and FORSCOM to maintain discipline.
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CSM Charles Hayden
CSM Charles Hayden
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MSG Jerome Rogers, Great response, please continue espousing it to the Big Army!
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SFC Steven Steingiesser
SFC Steven Steingiesser
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I completely agree with your assessment. I know after completing the 2 week course I was not prepared for what was to come. We received a week of training, then did a week of field training. In the 2 years on the trail, I used very little of what I learned in school- PRT, and don't lay hands on the privates. I am extremely pleased how the AITPSG course has changed to better reflect the training that needs to happen.
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SFC Craig Dalen
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Speaking from attending OSUT at Ft. Sill, I feel that we were groomed to fit the demanding role as an artilleryman. Now that Soldiers attend BCT anywhere has changed the level of readiness in today's younger artilleryman. AIT Platoon Sergeants do go to training but are not viewed as a Drill Sergeant in the eyes of Soldiers which can have a negative outcome.
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CW5 Regimental Chief Warrant Officer
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Will putting back Drills in AIT change anything? Why did they go away in the first place? Manning issues or ideology on how to treat AIT vs. BCT recruits? (Hard vs. Soft)?

If we train NCOs, put a hat on their head and then hamstring them from being able to instill discipline, what have we gained?
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