How do you feel discipline has changed since the removal of drill sergeants from AITs?

We need better train NCOs in AIT to lead those troops. AIT Platoon Sergeants are there now and until last September they only went through a two course to do the same job a Drill Segeant that went through a nine week course did. It also depends on the Command team in the AIT that approves all the privileges Soldiers receive. When Drill Sergeants was there they typically had 12 per company now on average its 7 AIT Platoon Sergeants. They go through a six week course now and receive better training but does not stop on AIT. If we need to reverse course and bring back Drill Segeants then how do we fix the young E-4 in the unit that's been there for two years that can't still pass an APFT or the NCO that gets a DUI. Should we bring Drill Sergeants to the operation Army to fix every discipline issue. I say no, we need to do a better job across the board to enforce standards and discipline across the Army. Sooner or later the hat and badge will come off what happens then discipline disappears. We need competent NCOs in AIT and FORSCOM to maintain discipline.

Speaking from attending OSUT at Ft. Sill, I feel that we were groomed to fit the demanding role as an artilleryman. Now that Soldiers attend BCT anywhere has changed the level of readiness in today's younger artilleryman. AIT Platoon Sergeants do go to training but are not viewed as a Drill Sergeant in the eyes of Soldiers which can have a negative outcome.

Will putting back Drills in AIT change anything? Why did they go away in the first place? Manning issues or ideology on how to treat AIT vs. BCT recruits? (Hard vs. Soft)?

If we train NCOs, put a hat on their head and then hamstring them from being able to instill discipline, what have we gained?

Drills do enforce the dicipline but we are all NCOs and that's all of our jobs as well. I think new AIT graduates should not be allowed to go to relaxed units because the dicipline is enforced but on a more relaxed level. They need to be assigned to standard units to gain maturity and dicipline

I've noticed a lot of the new soldiers are very mouthy and seem to have a mentality that an NCO has no power to do anything to them dicipline wise. Now some soldiers are still very professional because of the great leaders they had to influence them.

I know that things change with time but I went to infantry AIT at Ft. Jackson in 1966 and we did not have drill sergeants and I noticed no lack of discipline. Our platoon sergeants seemed to do just fine.

Discipline has gotten weaker since today's young people are soft. We have allowed it. we give trophies for participation. We don't make them work and we don't let them fail.

I am retired and I was talking to a bar back at a bar he was in the reserves and he said he would not go active because the military has turned into a emotional and feeling military they worry about people's feelings and are very pc what has this world come to

Station DI's in AIT.

Sir, I can tell you at 13F AIT in 2012 the discipline was not lacking. Most feared the instructors more than the drills. That may just be the case with 13F's though.