Posted on Mar 16, 2018
How do you handle a disrespectful junior soldier that doesn't belong to you?
108K
800
395
155
155
0
I recently encountered a junior soldier who wore a patch I didn't recognize who was walking around outside in a VERY ate-up uniform. I showed him my ID card and identified myself and explained to him where he was wrong and asked him to correct the deficiencies. At which point, the soldier told me to go f*** myself and then tried to fight me. Now, the grunt in me got really excited and couldn't wait to wall-to-wall this young soldier, but the professional in me simply wouldn't allow it. So I asked what unit the soldier belonged to, to which he responded "To your f***ing mama, b****." Now RP Leaders, how would you suggest I go about rectifying this situation, or should I simply leave it be and let the Karma catch up with him?
**ADMIN NOTE** I still have not been able to find the patch and it's corresponding unit, so I have no way of finding this soldier's Command.
**ADMIN NOTE** I still have not been able to find the patch and it's corresponding unit, so I have no way of finding this soldier's Command.
Disrespect
Military bearing
DA Pam 670-1
Leadership
Morals
Posted 8 y ago
Responses: 238
0
0
0
I remember I was heading for the Dining Facility at Camp Virginia in Kuwait. An E5 and E3 walked past the clearing barrel with clearing their rifles. I called out, guys you need to clear your weapons. The E3 complied immediately, while the E5 asked me where my weapon was? Secured in the Arms Room. After trying to stare me down, he eventually complied. As we were in the serving line, I could hear him saying loudly, did you clear your weapons, you better clear your weapons before eating. He was saying this to his teammates, trying to get a rise out of me. I kept quiet, but it took a lot of effort. Yes, I was only an E6, but clearing barrels are there for a reason and the place wasn't closing. I let it go.
(0)
(0)
0
0
0
Maybe Stolen Valor, you did not mention if it was on or off post.
Take a Picture and Not his name. Both can be run through the system to identify him if he was in fact a soldier.
Take a Picture and Not his name. Both can be run through the system to identify him if he was in fact a soldier.
(0)
(0)
0
0
0
Probably stolen valor. When that happens take his picture.
Also, if you got his name you may be able to run it with CID.
Also, if you got his name you may be able to run it with CID.
(0)
(0)
0
0
0
I have to applaud your "restraint" I don't know if I could have done it myself. Were you able to see his last name? It should be fairly easy to find the Soldiers billet using his last name and rank. His patch? I know there are several newly flagged Brigades and other commands. You can try the Army institute of Heraldry or other sources online. But, finally, you did well, In attempting to correct this guy. This is nothing new, Soldiers have corrected and been corrected since Washington's day. Keep it up.
(0)
(0)
0
0
0
Is this really a question? You out rank him/her and as such, they are required by the UCMJ to follow any lawful order given by you so long as it does not conflict with an order given to them by someone who outranks you.
1. Keep your tact and military bearing.
2. Order them to do whatever it is you require
3. Light them the F*%# up if they refuse without the proper justification or if they comply with “attitude”.
4. Order them to produce their military ID and then take a picture of it.
5. Contact their senior Staff NCO or NCO and inform them of what happened.
6. Laugh to yourself about how you lit up some boot E3 for being a little shitbag and how he/she is going to be lit up again by their command.
Maybe it’s a just a Marine Corps thing, but I can’t believe this procedure isn’t common knowledge for anyone in any branch of service.
1. Keep your tact and military bearing.
2. Order them to do whatever it is you require
3. Light them the F*%# up if they refuse without the proper justification or if they comply with “attitude”.
4. Order them to produce their military ID and then take a picture of it.
5. Contact their senior Staff NCO or NCO and inform them of what happened.
6. Laugh to yourself about how you lit up some boot E3 for being a little shitbag and how he/she is going to be lit up again by their command.
Maybe it’s a just a Marine Corps thing, but I can’t believe this procedure isn’t common knowledge for anyone in any branch of service.
(0)
(0)
Cpl Daniel Sixta
Additionally, if he was actually not in the military then it is within your right to photograph him and follow him while you call the police and report stolen valor.
(0)
(0)
SPC (Join to see)
Here's the problem there though;
I don't know his unit. I'm pretty sure he's National Guard, but they have more patches than socks these days, so it's becoming exceedingly difficult to track him down.
Additionally, I had already corrected him, and he simply refused to comply. Being that I was in civilians at the time (as this happened off the installation and at night when I had been off duty for about 4 hours), I can only assume he didn't take me seriously.
I don't know his unit. I'm pretty sure he's National Guard, but they have more patches than socks these days, so it's becoming exceedingly difficult to track him down.
Additionally, I had already corrected him, and he simply refused to comply. Being that I was in civilians at the time (as this happened off the installation and at night when I had been off duty for about 4 hours), I can only assume he didn't take me seriously.
(0)
(0)
0
0
0
Man I was going to give some hard core army answers from 1979 to 1988 back when I was in. Bit after reading some of the comments I am sadden at how the army has become. I know I am not that old but damn has it really changed that much. As far as the patch goes simple look up all the patches in the military and than see if any unit is station there with that patch. The MP can assist with that info
(0)
(0)
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
Read This Next
Continue with Facebook 
Continue with Google