Posted on Dec 19, 2013
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What would you do if you had peers who failed the tape test repeatedly and seem to make very little progress, despite being placed in remedial PT? If their leaders have already done everything they can to help them, there should be something that we (SPC and below) can do or say to flip that switch in their minds. The "tough love" and "cheerleader" approaches aren't working.
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I ask them if they care about staying in or if they just don't care anymore. Oh and tell them to stay away from that damn fast food junk and get outside and do some pt !!!
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SSG, that would sure motivate me! Thanks for your input.
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No problem, I do what I can to help out.
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SFC Uas Sme Acm Ra
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Well i know what what has worked for me in recent times is i let the soldier know what was at stake (his job and benefits) and that quickly motivated him to jump on the ball and make great strides towards meeting the standards set forth in AR 600-9. That being said all soldiers are different what works for one might not work for another. You should get to know that soldier and find out what motivates them and run with it, and continue to mentor and support them to show them you are in it with them to see that they succeed. Once they succeed you mentorship should not stop there. Succeeding is only half the battle now they must maintain it.
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Thanks SSG Lane. To be honest I have no idea what truly motivates them, but I will find out.
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Thanks SSG Lane. To be honest I have no idea what truly motivates them, but I will find out.
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LOL!  I thought they stopped making Twinkies. Roger SGT Wilson, will do!
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How do you motivate your battle buddies to pass tape?
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Unfortunately, some don't want to put the work into bettering themselves...regardless of the focused leadership or assistance.
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MSG, I agree, but it's hard to discern whether or not we're giving up on them too soon.
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SGM Matthew Quick
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SPC Thundercloud,

I applaud you for your efforts (that's probably why you're asking the question), but if the Soldier has been overweight, and through the counseling/dietitian/medical assessments and found that they CAN lose weight and still don't, it becomes an individual failure...Soldiers (or adults) need to take personal responsibility for their own actions or lack there of.

Keep sending them to the dietitian experts, any healthy living classes and cardio gym time (use a variety of exercises)...they've got to understand that being healthy is not just a temporary Army thing, but a lifelong commitment.
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Thanks, MSG, I will try reinforcing the lifelong commitment concept. And you're right about people taking personal responsibility.
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SSG Ron Davis
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All of the advice from others is spot on.  The fact that you are seeking advice shows that you are motivated to help your fellow soldier so you just need to figure out how to translate that motivation into words and actions that resonate with your friend.  As a former PT NCO here are a few ideas that I used that may help you:

1.  The military as a profession requires you to be in top physical form.  This was known when they enlisted so their personal integrity should motivate them to meet and exceed the standard.
2.  The benefits of being physically fit can help offset the stress that comes with the military lifestyle.
3.  Their promotions and advancement are directly tied to their fitness level so if they want to advance they should start with one of the areas they can control.
4.  Their goal should not just be to pass the tape test.  Their goal should be to be physically fit enough to easily make the weight standard.  Remind them of the extra hassle and stigma that comes with having to be taped.  Try and overcome the mindset of barely making it...
5.  Losing the excess weight will make it easier to maintain a healthy lifestyle and easier to do the PT needed to be a good soldier.  It is a complete cycle that benefits every area of their personal and professional life.
 
Good luck!
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Personally, you shouldn't have too. If they can't motivate themselves to be within the standard they obviously don't want to be a soldier. Being in the military is a way of life and not a job. If you can't find the motivation to hit the gym how can i depend on your to find the motivation to go save your battle buddy who is bleeding out or to have the motivation to set the example for your peers and subordinate. I come from the old school. I am in the guard and go to the gym just about daily to maintain my fitness levels. That is what soldiers do. 
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