Posted on May 3, 2017
How does a government shutdown contribute to "Making America Great Again"?
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MAJ Bryan Zeski
I remember the last Government shutdown, and it was a joke and did not make a real difference beyond a bit of an inconvenience.
I think President Trump is running into the wall I knew he would run into...Democrats and Republicans or corrupt cowards and they only really care about usurping as much power for themselves as they can...fixing the problems they created does not do this, so both parties have no interest in doing what they were elected to do.
I remember the last Government shutdown, and it was a joke and did not make a real difference beyond a bit of an inconvenience.
I think President Trump is running into the wall I knew he would run into...Democrats and Republicans or corrupt cowards and they only really care about usurping as much power for themselves as they can...fixing the problems they created does not do this, so both parties have no interest in doing what they were elected to do.
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LTC Kevin B.
MAJ (Join to see) - An "initial assessment" is a projection that is based on sound and proven scientific methodologies, normally using clean and accurate historical data. But feel free to continue keeping your head in the sand.
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MAJ (Join to see)
LTC Kevin B. - But that initial assessment was not based at all on the shutdown, it was an assessment based on GDP analysis which the CNN author on his own analysis attributed entirely to the shutdown. That is a huge logical jump.
Read the link above it gives the estimated projections and why they were determined to be so, it has nothing to do with the Federal shutdown.
Read the link above it gives the estimated projections and why they were determined to be so, it has nothing to do with the Federal shutdown.
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LTC Kevin B.
MAJ (Join to see) - Continue to believe what you want. Here's the initial press release from S&P, which occurred during the shutdown. Compare S&P's during-shutdown 4Q projections for GDP growth (2.4%) to their pre-shutdown 4Q expectations (3%). Then compare their during-shutdown projection to the actual numbers posted in the BEA analysis you cited, which occurred months after the shutdown (2.6%). You'll see that S&P wasn't too far off.
If anything, quibbling can occur over the actual size of the adverse economic impact due to the shutdown, but not whether the shutdown had an adverse economic impact. It was one of the factors that drove down GDP growth, and the BEA even mentioned it in that press release ("a larger decrease in federal government spending"). The shutdown did have an impact, and it was significant. At this point, you're really pole-vaulting over mouse turds.
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If anything, quibbling can occur over the actual size of the adverse economic impact due to the shutdown, but not whether the shutdown had an adverse economic impact. It was one of the factors that drove down GDP growth, and the BEA even mentioned it in that press release ("a larger decrease in federal government spending"). The shutdown did have an impact, and it was significant. At this point, you're really pole-vaulting over mouse turds.
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MSG Brad Sand
Good Lord people! We all lived through the last shut down...and I can vividly remember the financial hardship the entire Nation faced during the last Government ...wait, no, there was no financial hardship that the Nation faced. Yes there were some that had some temporary inconveniences...like I said originally. No one did not get the money they had earned or were owed. Some may have had a slight delays but it did not tank our economy regardless of what anyone can conjure up...WE LIVED THROUGH IT AND WOULD REMEMBER THE DISATER IF IT HAD HAPPENED.
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If the GOP(Great Orange President) wants a government shutdown he doesn't have to wait until September - all he need do is veto the currently in-works spending bill. This would be a tried and true action known as "putting your money where your mouth is."
On the other hand this may be nothing to worry about; after all, it's only been a day since the above statement and it's well within the normal waffle window for the GOP.
On the other hand this may be nothing to worry about; after all, it's only been a day since the above statement and it's well within the normal waffle window for the GOP.
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Operation: Drain the Swamp
Problem:
We are spending to much money. Also we can't come to a agreement to either raise the ceiling or do something about it.
Most likely proposed solution:
Cut government spending, cut government positions, cut government programs, cut government
Most likely method:
Same way the Democrats passed the Federal Reserve Act of 1917. All the conservatives were at home (Because people don't work for free, especially in politics) so you get a 96% approval rating from government and it passes and gets signed in on the same day.
Problem:
We are spending to much money. Also we can't come to a agreement to either raise the ceiling or do something about it.
Most likely proposed solution:
Cut government spending, cut government positions, cut government programs, cut government
Most likely method:
Same way the Democrats passed the Federal Reserve Act of 1917. All the conservatives were at home (Because people don't work for free, especially in politics) so you get a 96% approval rating from government and it passes and gets signed in on the same day.
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1stSgt Nelson Kerr
MSG Brad Sand - they tolerate it because except when crazies or idiots are in power, the government does not shut down. Without the crazies shut downwould never be an issue in the first place.
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Austin Hocutt
1stSgt Nelson Kerr -
I'd beg to differ, it's not like Hillary would have got in office, and this shut down would have just not happened. It's going to happen with or without a president. It's just economics that is causing it and has been for the past 8-16 years
Also I was talking about 1917 in that last paragraph, it's same method that the democrats used to pass the Federal Reserve act.
The conservatives were all at home with their families on Christmas, and the democrats unilaterally passed one of the worst acts I've ever seen.
I'd beg to differ, it's not like Hillary would have got in office, and this shut down would have just not happened. It's going to happen with or without a president. It's just economics that is causing it and has been for the past 8-16 years
Also I was talking about 1917 in that last paragraph, it's same method that the democrats used to pass the Federal Reserve act.
The conservatives were all at home with their families on Christmas, and the democrats unilaterally passed one of the worst acts I've ever seen.
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1stSgt Nelson Kerr
Austin Hocutt - BS, the shutdown will only happen if Congress and the President want it to happen, Congressional rulwes have changed since then if they do not have a quorum no vote they take is binding lawm, and the a goverment shutdown has zero effect on the senate and the house since they are paid and allowed to operate even when no one else is.
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