Posted on Dec 10, 2016
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1SG Al Brown
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The last time I witnessed this situation, the SSG popped the test by smoking a joint. He had one month before terminal leave started on a 20 year retirement. He was reduced to SGT, which violated his RCP. His retirement packet was pulled and he was Chaptered out. It happens all the time with E4's on the way out the door, but it's rare that someone would jeopardize a retirement.
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SFC Don Ward
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Not sure how that would work, Title 10 law says once you hit 18 you're golden. Heard of a SSG that was kicked out at 18 for being overweight - sued the government and got his retirement with backpay and a promotion besides.
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1SG Al Brown
1SG Al Brown
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Good question about the "18 yr lock-in", so I looked it up. Title X U.S.C. (A) (5) (1976) , "absent some contingency such as death or discharge for misconduct". I've seen several leave in the window for misconduct. But only one for drugs.
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In 2006 I saw a SSG with more than 20 years pop for cocaine and he was chaptered and lost his retirement.
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1SG Al Brown
1SG Al Brown
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I should mention this for benefit of E4s that are ETSing. As I was walking the barracks before heading home, I walked right up to an E4, sitting on a foot locker, smoking a joint the night before he went on terminal leave. He didn't think it was a big deal, acted like we were friends, and laughed about it. Twelve days beyond his ETS, he received a Field Grade with 45/45. I made him shovel the same dirt every day for 45 days. He PCS'd 60 days past his original date. Moral of the story; don't do it, and don't laugh about it.
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SSG Laurie Mullen
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Why would anyone risk their retirement for something so stupid?? I hope things work out for the best for you, but I think you just threw it away. Good luck.
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SFC Pete Kain
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With the Army downsizing and trying to save money.....Seriously you ask this.
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How does a positive urinalyses effect your retirement packet?
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It is up to the commander it could be very bad for you. Why would you risk your retirement like this?
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SSG (Join to see) - hopefully you are asking for a "friend". I don't see it ending well - at a minimum I would think the retirement packet would be pulled and the individual dishonorably discharged. Maybe worse. Although as others have said, it is up to the chain of command as to what actions, if any, are taken.
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Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen
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Off the top of my head I'd say a positive urinalysis would keep you from retiring period. You surely don't think they will keep you around for 20 years because you were young and made a mistake. Sorry, I sat on too many court martials where we awarded Dishonorable Discharge at the minimum for drug related offenses.
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Not good, and any NCO in this situation should be stripped of any entitlement.
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SFC Don Ward
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And then there is the case of an SFC that was caught having sex with an AIT private, while he was an AIT Platoon Sgt, knowing full well what AR 350-6 says, having signed stating that he knows what AR 350-6 says. Rumor says $13000 dollars worth of lawyer and the Court Martial reduced him to E-5, but retained him on Active Duty for 18 months until he could retire. Of course, high three, he'll draw E-7 pay for retirement.
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CW2 George Lansford
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Knucklehead stuff always gets you in trouble. You deserve what you get (or don't get in this case). You have to finish the race.
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MSG Mechanic 2nd
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seen worse than this master guns usmc , pissed in the toy section of bx, reduced to lcpl and bcd after more than 20 years why
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