Posted on Sep 14, 2016
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In the case of signing a 4187 requesting early separation for employment, can a LTC who serves as the Bridage DCO with active assumption of command orders sign a soldiers request as the approving authority? On milper message 15-019, it says it "AUTHORIZES COMMANDERS EXERCISING SPECIAL COURT MARTIAL CONVENING AUTHORITY (SPCMCA) OR HIGHER TO APPROVE VOLUNTARY EARLY SEPARATION PRIOR TO CONTRACTUAL ETS FOR REGULAR ARMY ENLISTED SOLDIERS". How does this work? Thanks
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LTC Paul Labrador
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When an officer assumes command, even if it's only for a day, he IS the commander.
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Roger that Sir! I needed clarity on this because I was hearing different things pertaining to this process for getting a soldiers 4187 signed for early separation. We have a MFR stating the assumption of command and have attached it to the soldiers packet, so everything should be GTG. Thanks again Sir!
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CPT Jim Schwebach
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When"the undersigned assumes command" that's exactly what it means. His signature block doesn't say "sort of commanding" it says "commanding." If the proving level for your request is brigade level command then he's (she's?) the approving authority.
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That definitely clears things up Sir! BDE level is the approving authority and he's (LTC) is in command at the moment. I have his signature on the paperwork, so if they give us any FLAK, I have the milper message and AR 600-20 at my immediate disposal. Thanks Sir!
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CPT Catherine R.
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Does the DCO have assumption of command orders? If so they are in command. As for if they can sign for this it will depend - sometimes the requirements say first COL in chain, sometimes it's BDE Commander - they are not always going to be the same!
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Thanks ma'am! As per the milper message, it's guidance only states commanders exercising special court martial convening authority or higher can approve these requests. So I'd assume that within that guidance, since he's the acting BDE commander, he has that authority correct?
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As long as that is the level of authority yes. THere's no such thing as "acting commander" You are in command or you aren't. I realize that someone takes temporary command to cover vacations and stuff but they are in command for that period and are just as responsible.

Sorry, pet peeve!
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