Posted on Jun 28, 2015
CPO Gregory Smith
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In the Navy we call it going to the Dark Side. I've encouraged many of my E6 and below to take this route due to extremely poor advancement opportunity. Even the folks with advanced degrees pass on it. They want to be a Navy Chief. As a Chief my self I completely understand. Does the drive to become senior enlisted exist in other services?
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MAJ Vic Artiga
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I started my career as an enlisted Soldier and ended it as a major. Being prior enlisted did give me a better understanding of what life was like for the Soldiers. When I was in the field artillery most of my NCOs would tell me the same thing, "I see how your guys (officers) get treated and I want no part of it". I later switched to intelligence. Most of my NCOs there saw becoming a warrant officer was a better route.
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LT Bill Rockett
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Speaking from the perspective of being a Maverick (enlisted to officer), I see it a bit differently. I agree that it is an honorable choice to continue to progress through the ranks to the most prestigious and influential rank of E-9 (Master Chief), but there are a number of jobs that can't be done as an enlisted person like Pilot, NFO (Naval Flight Officer), Doctor, Nurse, etc. that require the rank of O-1 and above. I think if one desires to do certain jobs or even to be able to command a ship, squadron, Intelligence Unit, etc. the jump to Officer is necessary.
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PO1 John Miller
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LT Bill Rockett, back in the "old days" there was an enlisted Naval rating called Naval Aviation Pilot (NAP). These were enlisted men who were pilots.

http://bluejacket.com/nap_index.htm
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1stSgt Edward Jackson
1stSgt Edward Jackson
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The USAAC, USAAF, and USAF had enlisted pilots back during WWII and slightly after that. The USAF continued with "aviation cadet pilots" until the early 1960s.
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LTC John Shaw
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CPO Gregory Smith MSgt Mike Mikulski
You are both right, Senior NCO have far more influence than Junior officers and it takes many years for the pay to reach even. Bottom line, for some it is opportunity in the officer Corps to start again and train for a different experience.
The Reserves and National Guard is the greatest beneficiary of these transfers better for the experiences and ideas, not that we always know how to take advantage of the skills and capabilities. Commissioned officers have 28 years up to O-5, I hit that MRD 2016 and will be out. I can see a significant advantage to enlisting for 4-8 years then moving to the warrant officer or officer rank.
I will be in retired reserve for 10 years prior to any retirement pay, but it will be nice to focus on one job and have weekends for the family. I have always had 2-3 weekends a month for Reserves for the last 30 years.
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LCpl Steve Smith
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lol I've witnessed a Butter bar get locked on when trying to tell the battalion SgtMaj. he couldn't smoke in Battalion...lol our Battalion Commander made sure that butter bar knew where he stood when it can to telling our SgtMaj what he could and could not do in his own office...lol (I just happened to in the HQ building at that time)
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