Posted on Feb 2, 2016
How does the E4 to E5 promotion work in the Army National Guard?
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I have heard a lot of things and the doctrine (I have indeed read it) seems fuzzy aside from 12 months time in grade. What other requirements need be met aside from the usual weapons qual and passing APFT? What does the promotion packet include/entail? And will I look decent as a candidate with a 270 APFT and BLC under my belt, or should I have more education than that (schools are hard to get in the guard.)? Any and all advice and information is appreciated.
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Pass current PT test. Be Green on medical. Be off any profiles. Finish SSD1. Go to WLC. Come back get you packet set up, and submit it.
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CPT (Join to see)
Stay hooah: come to drill, give classes, be available for schools, wait for slot. Waiting is hard part! (Being willing to drill other units helps)
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CPT (Join to see) - Sir, thank you for the advice. I actually just offered last week to give a class on OPORDS.
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SSD1 is the killer. It's amazing how many soldiers that don't have this done. You don't even make the list if this isn't done.
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CPL Tess Dingle
I've completed SSD1 and BLC, I am in a 5 slot, Ill be submitting a board packet in may... how long can it be expected to take after that?
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Every promotion board looks at soldiers as complete package. PT, weapons scores, deployments, awards, military schools, correspondences courses, civilian education and time in service and grade all are give points for a tabulated score. You also will go before a board and the board will give you so many points based on your general performance and knowledge of common tasks questions. the scores get tabulated by state G-1 and you are put on a order of merit list. As guard soldier, you can limit your chance of promotion to certain cities, at least bigger state do that. For Texas, my soldiers can select to be considered for promotion in the entire state or select the areas they are willing to drill in. Remember promotion is driven by vacancy, you many be number 10 on the list in the state but if there are only 9 slots open, you have to wait. The list is good for one year, so as slots open up in your MOS and next grade, the promotion gets offered to the next person on the list. If it is too far for you to drive, you can decline a promotion but you go to the bottom of the list.
Google Soldier of the month board study guide, they are pretty much all the same. some guys I have seen get flash cards.
civilian education and extra Army on line course are a big plus, because it shows you are seeking self improvement.
hope this helped
Google Soldier of the month board study guide, they are pretty much all the same. some guys I have seen get flash cards.
civilian education and extra Army on line course are a big plus, because it shows you are seeking self improvement.
hope this helped
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MSG Don H. -
Ahhh ok I went to the board for E5/E6 when I was on active duty but my guard unit will stick someone in a slot and if they have the time in service and are not flagged they will pick up their five but I think that might have changed recently
Ahhh ok I went to the board for E5/E6 when I was on active duty but my guard unit will stick someone in a slot and if they have the time in service and are not flagged they will pick up their five but I think that might have changed recently
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http://www.ngbpdc.ngb.army.mil%2Fpubs%2F600%2Fngr600_200.pdf is a good start to look at. This is going to get a bit wild as it is a lot of information to put out. I was a SGT and made it to SSG before I commissioned. I read up on this so I knew what I was doing.
First, soldiers don't actually go to a board like they do in the regular Army. Each soldier builds a packet and that packet go to a board, or panel, and they assess the soldier based on various criteria. This ranges from awards, college, time in rank/grade, and a few more areas. Once your packet has been reviewed you will be assessed against your peers in your MOS and Rank. You will be given a numerical value or point score. This is how many promotion points you have.
Once you have your points you will be put onto a promotion list with all the others soldiers in you MOS with your rank. Every MOS and Grade has a list. Once your packet has been assessed you will be put on the Combat Engineer SGT list along with all of your peers.
When a unit has a vacancy they will view the list of those eligible to be promoted. If you are within the milage of that unit they will call you and offer that SGT position. If you accept they will notify your state command and orders will be published promoting you into that unit that had the vacancy. If you didn't accept the promotion you will be removed off the list until next year.
The promotion lists are produced once a year. Once the number one soldier get promoted the number two soldier becomes number one and so on. They will only promote as many as they have vacancies. If a unit doesn't want to promote anyone into that vacant slot then the promotion process pretty much stops. Usually the state will prevent that from happening. I hope this helps.
First, soldiers don't actually go to a board like they do in the regular Army. Each soldier builds a packet and that packet go to a board, or panel, and they assess the soldier based on various criteria. This ranges from awards, college, time in rank/grade, and a few more areas. Once your packet has been reviewed you will be assessed against your peers in your MOS and Rank. You will be given a numerical value or point score. This is how many promotion points you have.
Once you have your points you will be put onto a promotion list with all the others soldiers in you MOS with your rank. Every MOS and Grade has a list. Once your packet has been assessed you will be put on the Combat Engineer SGT list along with all of your peers.
When a unit has a vacancy they will view the list of those eligible to be promoted. If you are within the milage of that unit they will call you and offer that SGT position. If you accept they will notify your state command and orders will be published promoting you into that unit that had the vacancy. If you didn't accept the promotion you will be removed off the list until next year.
The promotion lists are produced once a year. Once the number one soldier get promoted the number two soldier becomes number one and so on. They will only promote as many as they have vacancies. If a unit doesn't want to promote anyone into that vacant slot then the promotion process pretty much stops. Usually the state will prevent that from happening. I hope this helps.
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Sir, that is some fantastic information. Thank you very much for your input. I am trying to make SGT before I contract, as well.
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simple. the E4 with the best APFT score or the one who kisses the most ass or whose daddy/uncle/cousin etc is a retired GO gets promoted. All other E4s have to wait for some E5 to die.
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Make sure you have SSD1 done go to WLC have the required points find a E5 slot with your MOS transfer. Promotion.
It's really that simple.
It's really that simple.
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Each state is probably an little different. In Nebraska, we have the Enlisted Promotion System in which a packet is created for each eligible SPC. The packet contains QBI data, Soldier unit /distance preference, and evaluations similar to an NCOER. All the packets are then reviewed by an NCO board who rank all the Specialists according to MOS (If you have multiple MOSes you designate which one you want to be considered for promotion in). After the list is published, Soldiers are offered MOS vacancy promotions starting at the top of the list in their unit/distance preferences. If a Soldier turns down an EPS offer, they go to the bottom of the list for the rest of the year. If they become QBI ineligible (failed APFT or Body Composition) the offer will be revoked. In either case, the offer will go to the next eligible Soldier on the list.
Hope this provides you with some idea of how the Guard works.
Hope this provides you with some idea of how the Guard works.
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The best person to ask is your first line leader. Make them aware you are looking to be promoted and then take the steps you need to make it happen.
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Someone either has to retire or die up the chain somewhere so everyone else can move up.
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unless one is an attractive female who is "friendly" with TPTB. lol I once saw a ARNG female go from E4 to E7 in around 3 years. I was a 1LT and she worked in our 1 shop. I mobilized to Ft. Benning for 27 months. She was an E4 when I left and had just pinned E7 when I got back. No idea how that happened....
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From my understanding while speaking with my national guard counter parts. The best advise I can convey is utilize alms and jko with addition to ensuring that you are keeping in compliance with all required in grade schooling and one level above schooling. Also keep in very close proximity with your S1 and your UA. Also keep all files in the green along with doing a 6 month personal evaluation, to an sure your file is always up to date.
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